OC and DC replacement thoughts!!

[candrewk]

At the moment, none. Geoff is a damaged brand. I can't see any coordinator worth his salt climbing on the GT bandwagon until we have stabilized the program at much higher level.

The only reason I agree with this is because our defense is still so bad. I'll buy into the "4-5 year transition" on the offensive side of things, but defense should've started to turn the corner by now given Collins' background as a defensive coach. I still think Collins has two years left at min though, so I don't think theres zero hope of getting someone better than we currently have.

 

[GTjunkie]

My understanding is that Kelly wanted the job and CPJ also wanted him as permanent DC. The big-money alumni guys took the choice away and brought Roof back in

The "big money guys" seem to be ****ing up everything they touch.

 

[DieselTeeth]

listened to a ND post game show, the hosts said that our OL is not of ACC caliber.

He would be correct, we have not had an ACC caliber Oline in over 10 years. 2019 was a bust with Oline recruiting, and will take another 3 years to recover and grow. We still cannot impose our will at the line of scrimmage and open running lanes. Still our greatest weakness at this moment is our back 7 and lack of pass rush up front. We have many holes to fill coming up next season. Our recruiting has improved, but without high 4&5 star players, we are stuck growing our lines for several years until they can make a substantial impact

 

[SWATlien]

Chip Lindsey, who was fired at Troy, would be a good interesting fit.

 

[DuckGT]

nm

 

[Oldgoldandwhite]

Rock bottom is going to hit week one of next season when we realized we should have stopped the bleeding when we had the chance. At least we can rationale this season as a fact-finding mission of sorts. A lame-duck season next year is just going to be pathetic.

And the players can sense this.

 

[Oldgoldandwhite]

He would be correct, we have not had an ACC caliber Oline in over 10 years. 2019 was a bust with Oline recruiting, and will take another 3 years to recover and grow. We still cannot impose our will at the line of scrimmage and open running lanes. Still our greatest weakness at this moment is our back 7 and lack of pass rush up front. We have many holes to fill coming up next season. Our recruiting has improved, but without high 4&5 star players, we are stuck growing our lines for several years until they can make a substantial impact

That’s one thing I blame this staff for. I would have gotten 4-5 OL in 2019 from somewhere. JC, HS, transfers, programs that fired their coaches, under a rock, Europe, or anywhere else.

 

[Techster]

The "big money guys" seem to be ****ing up everything they touch.

Our "big money guys" are for the most part old. They want GT to have the success they remembered when they were younger. So they associate success with guys who coached under a successful coach at GT. It's why O'Leary and Ross are still revered at GT. Both coaches have very good success here, and O'Leary was at GT during two very good tenures, Ross's and his own. That's why CGC was allowed to cut in line our last coaching search. Trying to recreate a nostalgic period usually ends badly.

This isn't just a GT thing. It happens at every school. Michigan forever wanted a Bo Schembechler guy. 'Bama forever wanted a Bear Bryant guy. UNC is still trying to keep it Dean Smith's guys. Heck, a lot of people here want to keep with it within the CPJ tree. Sometimes it's nice to breath fresh air into a program.

 

[Techfan02]

I still say todd hailey. I really don't see why we can't get him as OC from atlanta and has proven that he can put up big offenses in the nfl now he is just a HS head coach.

 

[SOWEGA Jacket]

I get that we all want Steve Spurrier as our OC or Venables as our DC. Those type of guys aren’t coming here. But there are tons of up and comers who would kill to get a P5 gig. Where we are today with these current coordinators I’d take anyone right now. 3 years of watching nothing change is enough. We may only win 3 games next year but can we at least try something else?

 

[jgtengineer]

I get that we all want Steve Spurrier as our OC or Venables as our DC. Those type of guys aren’t coming here. But there are tons of up and comers who would kill to get a P5 gig. Where we are today with these current coordinators I’d take anyone right now. 3 years of watching nothing change is enough. We may only win 3 games next year but can we at least try something else?

You know..... what if qwe did something completely different. Geoff is a good enough recruiter does our OC even have to recruit, or our DC? WHat if we floated to the x's and os guys that their job was football and only football. I wonder if we could in fact get one of these guys out of retirement.

 

[DuckGT]

What’s schools have fired their DC/OC in the same year recently?

 

[GTcanWINagain]

Our "big money guys" are for the most part old. They want GT to have the success they remembered when they were younger. So they associate success with guys who coached under a successful coach at GT. It's why O'Leary and Ross are still revered at GT. Both coaches have very good success here, and O'Leary was at GT during two very good tenures, Ross's and his own. That's why CGC was allowed to cut in line our last coaching search. Trying to recreate a nostalgic period usually ends badly.

This isn't just a GT thing. It happens at every school. Michigan forever wanted a Bo Schembechler guy. 'Bama forever wanted a Bear Bryant guy. UNC is still trying to keep it Dean Smith's guys. Heck, a lot of people here want to keep with it within the CPJ tree. Sometimes it's nice to breath fresh air into a program.

Collins is fresh air to GT FB?

 

[bobongo]

Our "big money guys" are for the most part old. They want GT to have the success they remembered when they were younger. So they associate success with guys who coached under a successful coach at GT. It's why O'Leary and Ross are still revered at GT. Both coaches have very good success here, and O'Leary was at GT during two very good tenures, Ross's and his own. That's why CGC was allowed to cut in line our last coaching search. Trying to recreate a nostalgic period usually ends badly.

This isn't just a GT thing. It happens at every school. Michigan forever wanted a Bo Schembechler guy. 'Bama forever wanted a Bear Bryant guy. UNC is still trying to keep it Dean Smith's guys. Heck, a lot of people here want to keep with it within the CPJ tree. Sometimes it's nice to breath fresh air into a program.

That makes sense and explains a lot.

 

[1956]

Glenn Spencer would be better than what we have at DC. He may not be the best out there but he would be an improvement. 7 or 8 years as a P5 DC and about 20 as a div 1 DC. Of course he is a Tech guy but that should not disqualify him any more than it should elevate him. He has had a mixed career as dc, some good work and some not as good,but I dont think theres any question he would be an improvement. He was a heckava player for Tech. I believe he was nominated for Broyles award one of the years he was at Ok State. I may be wrong about that-not sure.

 

[Dress2Jacket]

Doesn’t Tech, and most schools for that matter require the HC have at least a Masters Degree?

I doubt anyone cares. Just win baybee.

 

[year_of_the_swarm]

Offensive Coordinator: Zach Kittley from Western Kentucky (#3 offense in college football this year)
Defensive Coordinator: David Reeves from UAB (top 10 total defense nationally in 2018, 2019, and 2020)

 

[Techster]

Offensive Coordinator: Zach Kittley from Western Kentucky (#3 offense in college football this year)
Defensive Coordinator: David Reeves from UAB (top 10 total defense nationally in 2018, 2019, and 2020)

Here's the lists we want to pull from:

2021 COLLEGE FOOTBALL OFFENSIVE FEI RATINGS | Football Outsiders

Rk Team Rec FBS OFEI ODE Rk OTD Rk OVD Rk OFD Rk OBD Rk OTO Rk 1 Ohio State 11-2 11-2 2.08 1.85 1 .508 1 .648 1 .891 1 .016 1 .078 24 2

www.footballoutsiders.com

2021 COLLEGE FOOTBALL DEFENSIVE FEI RATINGS | Football Outsiders

Rk Team Rec FBS DFEI DDE Rk DTD Rk DVD Rk DFD Rk DBD Rk DTO Rk 1 Georgia 14-1 13-1 1.93 1.42 1 .062 1 .169 1 .562 2 .169 15 .131 33 2

www.footballoutsiders.com

 

[Sheboygan]

Offensive Coordinator: Zach Kittley from Western Kentucky (#3 offense in college football this year)
Defensive Coordinator: David Reeves from UAB (top 10 total defense nationally in 2018, 2019, and 2020)

Like these a lot !!

 

[year_of_the_swarm]

Here's the lists we want to pull from:

2021 COLLEGE FOOTBALL OFFENSIVE FEI RATINGS | Football Outsiders

Rk Team Rec FBS OFEI ODE Rk OTD Rk OVD Rk OFD Rk OBD Rk OTO Rk 1 Ohio State 11-2 11-2 2.08 1.85 1 .508 1 .648 1 .891 1 .016 1 .078 24 2

www.footballoutsiders.com

2021 COLLEGE FOOTBALL DEFENSIVE FEI RATINGS | Football Outsiders

Rk Team Rec FBS DFEI DDE Rk DTD Rk DVD Rk DFD Rk DBD Rk DTO Rk 1 Georgia 14-1 13-1 1.93 1.42 1 .062 1 .169 1 .562 2 .169 15 .131 33 2

www.footballoutsiders.com

So Kittley is #18 on that list (Georgia Tech is #78)

And Reeves is #73 (Georgia Tech is #109)

Looks good to me. Of course, Kittley would bring the Air Raid with him. Georgia Tech would start throwing for about 450 a game. It's a talent equalizer, similar to the option. As proven by Mike Leach.