Meiko to transfer

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This is how you get such highly ranked recruiting classes. We can now fill a class of up to 25 guys. Instead of taking 17 and being ranked > 50, we'll likely come in around < 30. Weird, isn't it. I hate it these guys are leaving, but I really can't blame them. Look at the quality of our secondary and receivers down through 5-6 guys. The ability to see regular playing time at DB (Meiko) and WR (Howell) was so way way way out in the future, it might as well not exist. And we have a great class coming in, lots of youth (bad for them in the sense you can't just wait a year for a bunch to graduate) and we just won 9 games and are looking at it again next year. No coaching turnover or real wholesale changes to what we do are justified either. It is what it is. I hope for nothing but the best for them!

With our two early enrollees we can take 27.

 

[Oldgoldandwhite]

With our two early enrollees we can take 27.

As usual.

 

[forensicbuzz]

With our two early enrollees we can take 27.

This is only true if we took 23 or less last year. The early entries can only count against last year's class if there was room in last year's class. I think we're okay there, but I don't remember for sure. The year before I know we pushed right up against the number.

 

[Skeptic]

I hate this time of year. Really hate it. The board has gone nuts with football deprivation apparently. We are now speculating wildly or with "people I can't name but who know" about players transferring, and every time somebody posts somebody else chimes in with yet another name, passed on by somebody who knows somebody who might be on the team and pretty soon the whole roster is decimated and all the coaches are elsewhere. In fact, members of the board are rumored ready to transfer. I get the fun of this, but it is a hell of a thing that the 19-year-old football players are more mature than we are. They must think we are nuts. If somebody goes they go. If somebody stays they stay. Good for all of them. But let's stop the insinuations and intimations of being in the know, leave the players out of it, and just admit we don't know what we are talking about but we're bored.

 

[forensicbuzz]

I'm pretty sure they know we're nuts.

 

[4shotB]

I hate this time of year. Really hate it. The board has gone nuts with football deprivation apparently. We are now speculating wildly or with "people I can't name but who know" about players transferring, and every time somebody posts somebody else chimes in with yet another name, passed on by somebody who knows somebody who might be on the team and pretty soon the whole roster is decimated and all the coaches are elsewhere. In fact, members of the board are rumored ready to transfer. I get the fun of this, but it is a hell of a thing that the 19-year-old football players are more mature than we are. They must think we are nuts. If somebody goes they go. If somebody stays they stay. Good for all of them. But let's stop the insinuations and intimations of being in the know, leave the players out of it, and just admit we don't know what we are talking about but we're bored.

Sports message boards are the "National Enquirer' for adult males... if you rely on them for serious journalism, you can and will be sorely disappointed. You have to find entertainment in the gossip and innuendo or else simply ignore it. I doubt it can be controlled, modified or contained. frankly, this particular site is pretty mild and self-monitored compared to some of the others that are out there and/or have come and gone over the years. Few, if any, of the lunatic fringe drop by here...thankfully.

 

[tech_wreck47]

From the rumble seat, we have 10 spots open for this year and 11 spots open by NCAA rules.

http://www.fromtherumbleseat.com/pages/georgia-tech-football-scholarship-breakdown

 

[Southpaw13]

That chart included Meiko and Howell... so add 2 to that.

 

[RedPete]

I was going to post this comment/question in the Howell thread before @jwsavhGT had to lock it.
After these transfers we keep hearing how they were buried in the depth chart with little chance to see the field next year, and sure that makes us feel better... While that reason sounds valid for DB's like Meiko who had plenty of opportunities for playing time as backups or on special teams. On the other hand we've now lost two WR's who came in with good potential, because Ricky Juene and Brad Stewart have the WR spots locked down.
That doesn't sit as well.
Coaches rotate 4 or 5 guys into the 2 A-back spots... The OL saw 10 guys get significant PT... Why can't we rotate the WRs as well? Their touches are so rare to begin with, it kinda sucks that only 2 guys even have a chance. I appreciate that they earned their starting roles, but frankly find it hard to believe that Jeune and Stewart are THAT much better than Howell, Philpot, and Lands-Davis, so much that they must be on the field for practically every play. If Dabo Sweeny used his WRs like that then we'd have never heard of a guy like Hunter Renfroe. Howell in particular is the same size as Demaryius Thomas and I was looking forward to seeing him put a stiff-arm on somebody and take it to the house like Bebe used to do. Yet he never even had a chance to show his skillset because only two WRs ever get to play.

 

[Oldgoldandwhite]

Blocking, know the offense, dependability!

 

[RedPete]

so two of the skinniest WR's on the team are the best blockers? Suuure

But even if they are marginally the best two, there's no reason we can't rotate that position just like the others.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

I think based on CPJs willingness to play folks like Mills, Lee, Braun, Cooper, as Freshmen (and Stewart in 2015 and Marshall, Lynch, Searcy in 2015), if these other guys aren't seeing the field, my ignorant far-removed feedback would be there must indeed be a pretty large dropoff in execution. We have a lot of datapoints going back many years that would tend to support that assumption.

 

[RedPete]

Nice try, but Stewart, Marshall, Lynch, and Searcy played as freshman last year because every ball-carrier on the team had just graduated except JT. But you're right -- I'm just looking at recent history here when having a solid passer brought this to my attention. That said, even going back to 2012 it sure seems like only 2 WRs ever get to play each year. Doubtful that only two are far & away better than the rest, every year. CPJ might as well wait and recruit WRs as rarely as kickers & punters.

 

[Techster]

I was going to post this comment/question in the Howell thread before @jwsavhGT had to lock it.
After these transfers we keep hearing how they were buried in the depth chart with little chance to see the field next year, and sure that makes us feel better... While that reason sounds valid for DB's like Meiko who had plenty of opportunities for playing time as backups or on special teams. On the other hand we've now lost two WR's who came in with good potential, because Ricky Juene and Brad Stewart have the WR spots locked down.
That doesn't sit as well.
Coaches rotate 4 or 5 guys into the 2 A-back spots... The OL saw 10 guys get significant PT... Why can't we rotate the WRs as well? Their touches are so rare to begin with, it kinda sucks that only 2 guys even have a chance. I appreciate that they earned their starting roles, but frankly find it hard to believe that Jeune and Stewart are THAT much better than Howell, Philpot, and Lands-Davis, so much that they must be on the field for practically every play. If Dabo Sweeny used his WRs like that then we'd have never heard of a guy like Hunter Renfroe. Howell in particular is the same size as Demaryius Thomas and I was looking forward to seeing him put a stiff-arm on somebody and take it to the house like Bebe used to do. Yet he never even had a chance to show his skillset because only two WRs ever get to play.

Depending on what's going on, we actually rotate around 4 WRs a game. I know MLD was usually the first reserve up in the WR rotation for when Stewart or Jeune rotated out. Camp got a lot of playing time towards the end of the year as well. The problem is we don't throw that often so you miss the reserve WRs come in. When we do throw, I think CPJ makes it a point to have Jeune and Stewart in on the play.

Had it not been for injuries, Philpott might have been occupying the spot Stewart is in right now. Remember, Philopott was going to be next WR up after Jeune and Summers in 2015, but he got hurt. He was definitely in line to play. Stewart took advantage of being out and never looked back.

At the end of the day, if a WRs doesn't do enough in practice for the coaches to have confidence in him, why risk putting them in a game? It doesn't matter if they leave or stay, any player that doesn't perform isn't getting on that field.

 

[Skeptic]

I was going to post this comment/question in the Howell thread before @jwsavhGT had to lock it.
After these transfers we keep hearing how they were buried in the depth chart with little chance to see the field next year, and sure that makes us feel better... While that reason sounds valid for DB's like Meiko who had plenty of opportunities for playing time as backups or on special teams. On the other hand we've now lost two WR's who came in with good potential, because Ricky Juene and Brad Stewart have the WR spots locked down.
That doesn't sit as well.
Coaches rotate 4 or 5 guys into the 2 A-back spots... The OL saw 10 guys get significant PT... Why can't we rotate the WRs as well? Their touches are so rare to begin with, it kinda sucks that only 2 guys even have a chance. I appreciate that they earned their starting roles, but frankly find it hard to believe that Jeune and Stewart are THAT much better than Howell, Philpot, and Lands-Davis, so much that they must be on the field for practically every play. If Dabo Sweeny used his WRs like that then we'd have never heard of a guy like Hunter Renfroe. Howell in particular is the same size as Demaryius Thomas and I was looking forward to seeing him put a stiff-arm on somebody and take it to the house like Bebe used to do. Yet he never even had a chance to show his skillset because only two WRs ever get to play.

What's even having a chance got to do with it? They're not earning participation ribbons.

 

[kg01]

I don't think @RedPete01 is crazy here. Our WR rotations seem odd especially when we seem to desperately need some speed at that position.

 

[Techster]

I don't think @RedPete01 is crazy here. Our WR rotations seem odd especially when we seem to desperately need some speed at that position.

A man goes to the grocery store to get oranges. When he gets to the produce section, all they have are apples and bananas. The guy gets some apples hoping they taste like oranges...

 

[UgaBlows]

I've gotta admit i'm pretty bummed that Philpott and Howell didn't pan out, i thought they would both be starting by now

 

[kg01]

A man goes to the grocery store to get oranges. When he gets to the produce section, all they have are apples and bananas. The guy gets some apples hoping they taste like oranges...

Ooh, philosophical. Ok, I'll play.

Perhaps a man has oranges hidden under the apples .... so he knows not ... that he does indeed .... have oranges.

 

[bke1984]

I don't think @RedPete01 is crazy here. Our WR rotations seem odd especially when we seem to desperately need some speed at that position.

I'm not sure that's fair. What we need is guys that consistently block well and win one-on-one balls. I think we've got two of those right now.