Mack Brown Fired

[wvGT11]

I'm going to laugh so hard if UNC hires Collins as full time HC

 

[Tech Lawyer]

I listen to the Inside Carolina Podcast all the time. Their podcasts are conducted by smart and objective people. The question they all have is how to find a topflight HC to come to a school where the Administration is not all in for football. When I was at our game there this year, the media seemed more concerned about covering the basketball practice game than covering the football game. So much for the idea that UNC is the school cherished most by SEC expansion. This is a dead end job. It must kill UNC fans to see Duke 8-3 right now under a first year HC?

 

[RamblinRed]

If I was in charge I would be calling Jon Sumrall at Tulane.

 

[TampaBuzz]

Collins = The Former Guy (TFG)

A different way of refusing to acknowledge a horrible coach. See B*** L****.

I still like Paul Johnson's description the best....but it is apparently banned on this site.

 

[stinger78]

Just a short personal story about Mack. I was traveling on business in North Carolina sometime in the 1990-95 period (Approximately). I was staying in a hotel somewhere in the Charlotte--High Point area, not sure exactly where after 30 years. I was having dinner at the hotel restaurant when an adjoining ball room opened up where a crowd of UNC alums exited into the restaurant area. The restaurant was on a raised platform type area.

Mack was mingling with a few UNC alums/fans after the meeting. After the meet and greet wrapped up, Mack headed directly to the rail around the restaurant area and stopped at my table to shake hands and spend a few minutes with me and a couple of the other patrons. I don't recall the exact discussion, but I know we talked about the ACC and GT. I am sure he thought he would be recruiting some new UNC fans or supporters, but I know we talked about my being a GT alum and supporter. I was pretty excited about being in the ACC in those days.

I will just say that Mack was very gracious and seemed like a genuine good guy and gentleman.

I had a similar encounter with Bobby Bowden in, maybe winter 2001 at church. Before he spoke, he walked by me and stopped to shake hands and I asked him to take it easy on Tech. He laughed and said wtte: “Take it easy on Tech! George needs to take it easy on me!”
We both laughed and he walked on.
Total coach speak, but he was as engaging as could be. Very nice man.

Guys like him and Mack are treasures for the game. They need to be appreciated.

 

[gtchem05]

I'd expect UNC to pursue Indiana's coach.

 

[gte447f]

I'm going to laugh so hard if UNC hires Collins as full time HC

It would be hilarious, but I don’t see any reason why they would do something so stupid. He led their defense in giving up 70 points to James Madison this year.

 

[FightWinDrink]

I'd expect UNC to pursue Indiana's coach.

He just signed an 8 year $8 mil per year extension. They were only paying Mack $4.3 mil. So I doubt it

 

[g0lftime]

I listen to the Inside Carolina Podcast all the time. Their podcasts are conducted by smart and objective people. The question they all have is how to find a topflight HC to come to a school where the Administration is not all in for football. When I was at our game there this year, the media seemed more concerned about covering the basketball practice game than covering the football game. So much for the idea that UNC is the school cherished most by SEC expansion. This is a dead end job. It must kill UNC fans to see Duke 8-3 right now under a first year HC?

That's why Mack left for Texas originally plus he knew he couldn't beat FSU back then.

 

[gte447f]

I listen to the Inside Carolina Podcast all the time. Their podcasts are conducted by smart and objective people. The question they all have is how to find a topflight HC to come to a school where the Administration is not all in for football. When I was at our game there this year, the media seemed more concerned about covering the basketball practice game than covering the football game. So much for the idea that UNC is the school cherished most by SEC expansion. This is a dead end job. It must kill UNC fans to see Duke 8-3 right now under a first year HC?

I have never understood or agreed with the notion in bold. UNC football has been mostly mediocre for decades except for a few good years.

 

[TooTall]

I have never understood or agreed with the notion in bold. UNC football has been mostly mediocre for decades except for a few good years.

They haven't won the ACC since 1980. Whoever believes they are a football power on par with the $EC needs to be tared and featherd and ridden out of town on a rail.

 

[DeepSnap]

They haven't won the ACC since 1980. Whoever believes they are a football power on par with the $EC needs to be tared and featherd and ridden out of town on a rail.

And they ran off Bill Dooley & D*ick Crum.....

Crum was only a year or two from some of their best seasons-to-date.....

Brown lost the locker room in Austin & decided it was better to be leading the parade out of town vice being chased.

 

[Poodletop]

Please please UNC, promote Scooter to head coach. You know he wants the job and I’ll laugh like a delighted little girl.

 

[RamblinRed]

I listen to the Inside Carolina Podcast all the time. Their podcasts are conducted by smart and objective people. The question they all have is how to find a topflight HC to come to a school where the Administration is not all in for football. When I was at our game there this year, the media seemed more concerned about covering the basketball practice game than covering the football game. So much for the idea that UNC is the school cherished most by SEC expansion. This is a dead end job. It must kill UNC fans to see Duke 8-3 right now under a first year HC?

You are confusing why they are wanted.

B1G didn't bring in MD, Rutgers, UCLA because they were good FB schools. They were brought in for markets and eyeballs.

SEC has always been very open their expansion is tied to the idea of getting the big state school in a contiguous state.

That is why UNC is so coveted by both leagues. That and they are a blue blood BB school.

Whether the program is 'good' is a secondary item for the leagues, not a primary one and not one that is going to be a huge decision maker.

 

[Papa Foxtrot]

Posted for amusement purposes only...

 

[Randy Carson]

Just a short personal story about Mack. I was traveling on business in North Carolina sometime in the 1990-95 period (Approximately). I was staying in a hotel somewhere in the Charlotte--High Point area, not sure exactly where after 30 years. I was having dinner at the hotel restaurant when an adjoining ball room opened up where a crowd of UNC alums exited into the restaurant area. The restaurant was on a raised platform type area.

Mack was mingling with a few UNC alums/fans after the meeting. After the meet and greet wrapped up, Mack headed directly to the rail around the restaurant area and stopped at my table to shake hands and spend a few minutes with me and a couple of the other patrons. I don't recall the exact discussion, but I know we talked about the ACC and GT. I am sure he thought he would be recruiting some new UNC fans or supporters, but I know we talked about my being a GT alum and supporter. I was pretty excited about being in the ACC in those days.

I will just say that Mack was very gracious and seemed like a genuine good guy and gentleman.

My take is that Mack Brown is a good guy whose best days (and the sport itself) have passed him by.

If he had won a Natty, he would be up there with Dean & Roy, but as it is, I think Carolina fans will be ambivalent about him in the years to come.

Carolina football is a sleeping giant, IMO. If they get it right, their next hire could change the ACC dramatically.

 

[beeteam]

My take is that Mack Brown is a good guy whose best days (and the sport itself) have passed him by.

If he had won a Natty, he would be up there with Dean & Roy, but as it is, I think Carolina fans will be ambivalent about him in the years to come.

Carolina football is a sleeping giant, IMO. If they get it right, their next hire could change the ACC dramatically.

Not to say it can't happen, but I cannot think of a single basketball blue blood that became a perennial power in football. I am sure I am missing one, but not coming up with it.

 

[Dettmann1]

Not to say it can't happen, but I cannot think of a single basketball blue blood that became a perennial power in football. I am sure I am missing one, but not coming up with it.

Agreed. I think people like to say UNC could be good, but honestly Football will always play second fiddle to basketball at the school and I'm not sure a big-time football coach would want to stick around in that environment when they can go to a Football first type school.

 

[iceeater1969]

I listen to the Inside Carolina Podcast all the time. Their podcasts are conducted by smart and objective people. The question they all have is how to find a topflight HC to come to a school where the Administration is not all in for football. When I was at our game there this year, the media seemed more concerned about covering the basketball practice game than covering the football game. So much for the idea that UNC is the school cherished most by SEC expansion. This is a dead end job. It must kill UNC fans to see Duke 8-3 right now under a first year HC?

UNC are the elites of ACC.
Texas is the elite of old SW conference.

They fly high and recruit the elite looking head coach and qb. They under estimate the rest.
Mack brown actually hired our old coach!!

Back when son was assistant coach at Van HS Texas , he had stud MLB who had commited to ou. Mack flew in to practive in helicopter, visited with kids and flipped him - even though son told him he was to slow for texas new defense( lean fast). Kid told son that Mack would take care of him = not. Them mack left .

 

[MWBATL]

I was reading it as "The former Goof"

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