Loyola Chicago (8) vs. Georgia Tech (9), Friday, 4pm ET, TBS

[Deleted member 2897]

2004 ACC was ridiculously loaded. 3rd Team All-ACC was Chris Paul, Jarrett Jack, Raymond Felton, Luol Deng and John Gilchrist.

That's um ... A LOT of talent.

Only 3 ACC teams finished above 0.500 in conference play that year. That's it. And the 4th place team was 16-14 overall. Yet there was common agreement the ACC was a strong conference.

 

[ESPNjacket]

Yes, there is clearly something in these models that isn't rational. There's no way 9 of the Big Ten teams are the top 13 in the country. We beat Florida State on a neutral court and dropped a position in the ratings. That cannot be logically explained.

There are 357 teams. The models take into account not only the changing results of everyone you played but everyone your opponents played.

It isn't as simple as who won one game. That isn't irrational, it is complicated.

Looking at the individual game stats, we gave up 1.09 points per possession vs. FSU so that probably hurt our defensive efficiency.

The Big Ten has 6 of the top 30 teams in kenpom. NET isn't as good as there are political influences in the model. It is still way better than RPI, which isn't a model at all.

 

[vadimivich]

I am not sure there is a Paul, Jack or even a Felton in the whole league this year. Trying to think who that might be.

I'm not sure there's even a Ty Jerome in the league this year

 

[ESPNjacket]

Only 3 ACC teams finished above 0.500 in conference play that year. That's it. And the 4th place team was 16-14 overall. Yet there was common agreement the ACC was a strong conference.

I don't know where you are getting your information. 8 of 9 teams won 18 or more games overall. The number of teams over .500 in conference says absolutely nothing about anything. The cumulative conference record is always .500.

 

[vadimivich]

Only 3 ACC teams finished above 0.500 in conference play that year. That's it. And the 4th place team was 16-14 overall. Yet there was common agreement the ACC was a strong conference.

Because the ACC wiped the floor with everyone else OOC that year.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

I don't know where you are getting your information. 8 of 9 teams won 18 or more games overall. The number of teams over .500 in conference says absolutely nothing about anything. The cumulative conference record is always .500.

I'm getting my information from history.

 

[Milwaukee]

Porter Moser coming up on Full Ride SiriusXM 84 next segment if you’re interested.

 

[Jacketfish]

Jose is on 680 the fan right now for those who can tune-in

 

[ESPNjacket]

I'm getting my information from history.

Here is the non-alternative fact version of history

Team	W		L		PCT			W		L		PCT
Conf			Overall
No. 6 Duke	13	–	3		.813			31	–	6		.838
No. 15 NC State	11	–	5		.688			21	–	10		.677
No. 17 Wake Forest	9	–	7		.563			21	–	10		.677
No. 14 Georgia Tech	9	–	7		.563			28	–	10		.737
No. 18 North Carolina	8	–	8		.500			19	–	11		.633
No. 19 Maryland†	7	–	9		.438			20	–	12		.625
Florida State	6	–	10		.375			19	–	14		.576
Virginia	6	–	10		.375			18	–	13		.581
Clemson	3	–	13		.188			10	–	18		.357

 

[kg01]

Porter Moser coming up on Full Ride SiriusXM 84 next segment if you’re interested.

Is he announcing he's taking the DePaul job or something?

 

[bobongo]

Only 3 ACC teams finished above 0.500 in conference play that year. That's it. And the 4th place team was 16-14 overall. Yet there was common agreement the ACC was a strong conference.

2004-05 Atlantic Coast Conference Season Summary

• Record: 221-132, .626 W-L% (1st of 32) (Records do not reflect forfeits and vacated games)
• SRS: 14.50 (1st of 32)
• SOS: 9.08 (1st of 32)

 

[Milwaukee]

Is he announcing he's taking the DePaul job or something?

Linked with DePaul and Minnesota already is what I read this am.

 

[D-man44]

Hawks showing love

 

[Vespid]

Linked with DePaul and Minnesota already is what I read this am.

 

[Rambergler]

I agree that putting Krutwig in the PnR will present some problems, but I think he'll be able to hold up ok. Not great, but ok. And I can live with that.

I don't see Moser leaving for either DePaul or Minnesota. DePaul is a coaching graveyard that will take some time to turn around, and we'll have another potential tournament team next year (especially if Krut and Williamson exercise their 5th year). As for Minnesota, if he didn't leave for St. John's 2 years ago for a reported 8 years/$17-18M, I don't think he jumps ship for MN. I don't know what's going on with Indiana but I'd be surprised if they didn't at least kick the tires.

In an odd twist, my hometown team hired just hired Pitino, as already mentioned. What a time to be alive lol

 

[kg01]

Linked with DePaul and Minnesota already is what I read this am.

Time to fire up the ol' burner account on twitter to spam rumors about his job status out there before friday.

 

[Milwaukee]

He confirmed Sister Jean will be at the game. Bring it.

 

[bobongo]

Time to fire up the ol' burner account on twitter to spam rumors about his job status out there before friday.

Yeah, Loyola coach isn't so loyal any more...

 

[kg01]

He confirmed Sister Jean will be at the game. Bring it.

Can we bring some ladies from Magic City to counteract the mojo?

 

[kg01]

Yeah, Loyola coach isn't so loyal any more...

You gotta spell it "Loyo" though. "Loyola coach isn't so loyo any more .... per sources."

Has better pop that way, imho.