King Injury Factual Updates

[g0lftime]

I think there is some truth to that. Being a head coach for only 1+ years, Key is still learning the game time decision making. Most head coaches at this level have much more experience even if it was at a lower level. Even HS. He will get better.

If he doesn't, he won't be a HC for very long.

 

[Bogey]

Like the rest of y’all, I have no factual updates.

Those are the most factual words posted in this thread.

 

[stinger78]

Those are the most factual words posted in this thread.

Factual.

 

[tmhunter52]

Rewatched the vt game summary. Our defense line played solid.
In third quarter Vt used a number of trick or unusual plays in order to move ball. Flea flicker, double wr reverse, TE pass to qb.

And after a succesfull trick play to the 20 they ran down to set up in strong line left with TE in the line hiding as if he is a Right tackle. Our lb were running around totally confused. NO ONE CALLED TIME OUT. A THE SNAP THE TIGHT END JOGGED INTO THE END ZONE AFTER CATCHING A TD PASS WITH NO ONE NEAR HIM.

Pry prepared special plays to give his team some advantage.

At one point we had an injured #11 playing and a freshman rb back up. The starting qb is out.

Does Key call special plays or does he just rely on the dominating talent advantage we have at Alabama to wear down the opponents?

Sorry, but the accumulating data suggests that Key is clueless. Not as clueless as TFG, but clueless nonetheless.

 

[iceeater1969]

Would his father

Sorry, but the accumulating data suggests that Key is clueless. Not as clueless as TFG, but clueless nonetheless.

Slow learner in some areas that are easily fixed (trick plays). He can easily
tell buster to be ready to call a series pass pro called longer passes for king and at same time tell king to scramble and run / hit an alternate receiver.

But seversl hard thing Key is doing - going to sae frat house for radio show, being loyal to ol guys who are struggling, hiring a very good dc , recruiting recruiting - building depth. He has 2 more years to become an in game coach

 

[tmhunter52]

Would his father

Slow learner in some areas that are easily fixed (trick plays). He can easily
tell buster to be ready to call a series pass pro called longer passes for king and at same time tell king to scramble and run / hit an alternate receiver.

But seversl hard thing Key is doing - going to sae frat house for radio show, being loyal to ol guys who are struggling, hiring a very good dc , recruiting recruiting - building depth. He has 2 more years to become an in game coach

The problem with a Tech HC who needs on-the-job training is that the team continues to bleed support while the frustration builds. That can translate into fewer fans and less giving. For a fanbase accustomed to cost-benefit analysis and critical, periodic performance review, the hole may be even deeper before Key figures it out.

 

[BuzzStone]

The problem with a Tech HC who needs on-the-job training is that the team continues to bleed support while the frustration builds. That can translate into fewer fans and less giving. For a fanbase accustomed to cost-benefit analysis and critical, periodic performance review, the hole may be even deeper before Key figures it out.

I don't know that this is true. I don't think key is the answer for the future. I think he is doing a great job for what we needed now. I wanted to see the program stabilized. Then once stable we can start improving, which will probably start at staff. I don't think Key wins us an ACC championship here this time around. He needs more time. But I increased my giving this year. I also increased my monthly donation to the tech way. I am hopeful we make a bowl game this year. Next year if we don't make a bowl game I would think you are right. I know i am just a small sample but I did give up season tickets goofy collins last year. I was frustrated. Things are better now and my giving has increased.

 

[Thwg777]

The problem with a Tech HC who needs on-the-job training is that the team continues to bleed support while the frustration builds. That can translate into fewer fans and less giving. For a fanbase accustomed to cost-benefit analysis and critical, periodic performance review, the hole may be even deeper before Key figures it out.

If we end up 6-6 on the 2024 season (most likely outcome), I think it’s improvement, albeit marginal.

Speaking for myself, the 2025 bar is very high… 8-4 minimum, based on needing to see marked improvement and perception of scheduling ease.

It’s hard to look past one season with how the sport has changed. Entire rosters can now be turned over in free agency - both us and all opponents too.

 

[4shotB]

The problem with a Tech HC who needs on-the-job training is that the team continues to bleed support while the frustration builds. That can translate into fewer fans and less giving. For a fanbase accustomed to cost-benefit analysis and critical, periodic performance review, the hole may be even deeper before Key figures it out.

I think Key benefits from the same thing that helped Bill Curry through his growing pains...former GT player who understands the culture. Yes, there will always be a very few but very vocal dimwits who "won't accept mediocrity" in our fan base but we had those under Ross. O'leary and Johnson as well. Curry developed well enough to be recruited as Bama's HC if you are old enough to recall but really struggled early on

 

[stinger78]

The problem with a Tech HC who needs on-the-job training is that the team continues to bleed support while the frustration builds. That can translate into fewer fans and less giving. For a fanbase accustomed to cost-benefit analysis and critical, periodic performance review, the hole may be even deeper before Key figures it out.

I don’t think Key has cost us any wins so far. I believe strongly he has won us some games with his approach. This year, I place it all on injuries. For Pete sake, we were 5 and 2 when King finally went down and the injuries exploded the past 3 weeks.

 

[stech81]

I don’t think Key has cost us any wins so far. I believe strongly he has won us some games with his approach. This year, I place it all on injuries. For Pete sake, we were 5 and 2 when King finally went down and the injuries exploded the past 3 weeks.

And I’m not sure we didn’t have some injuries (King) before we thought

 

[MonroeJacket]

If we end up 6-6 on the 2024 season (most likely outcome), I think it’s improvement, albeit marginal.

Speaking for myself, the 2025 bar is very high… 8-4 minimum, based on needing to see marked improvement and perception of scheduling ease.

It’s hard to look past one season with how the sport has changed. Entire rosters can now be turned over in free agency - both us and all opponents too.

I said this above somewhere, but I actually had these records flipped. I thought this year 8 wins was attainable (it was), and I thought next year we’d take a step back. After looking again, and potentially an easier slate, maybe we could get to 7-8 if we’re VERY lucky and CRUSH the portal (I don’t see that happening). But we lose the following at a minimum. Do some of these guys listed as Sr still have an extra year? On offense I think OL will be ok. Does Cooley get a medical? Could use a good TE and WR from the portal, along with a big back. Will have Seither back. On defense, we’re gonna have to work wonders on DL in the portal, because we lose almost everyone who is getting snaps.

As far as transfers, I wouldn’t be surprised if these guys leave…
Singleton (he’s not getting deep opps)
Leo (I can see him leaving to get more opportunities)
Horace (Wouldn’t be much of a loss because he hasn’t played, but I think we’ve missed him this year, and will def need him next year with the losses, does he RS/medical?)
Pyron leaves if he graduates
Cooley (If he has eligibility. I thought he would have last year)
Ethan Mackenny???? I know he and Key are tight but…

Hopefully Tahj and Taye don’t get poached. Other programs are certainly gonna try.

I can’t imagine Haynes, Jamal, Malik or any of our starting OL leaving.

 

[iceeater1969]

I said this above somewhere, but I actually had these records flipped. I thought this year 8 wins was attainable (it was), and I thought next year we’d take a step back. After looking again, and potentially an easier slate, maybe we could get to 7-8 if we’re VERY lucky and CRUSH the portal (I don’t see that happening). But we lose the following at a minimum. Do some of these guys listed as Sr still have an extra year? On offense I think OL will be ok. Does Cooley get a medical? Could use a good TE and WR from the portal, along with a big back. Will have Seither back. On defense, we’re gonna have to work wonders on DL in the portal, because we lose almost everyone who is getting snaps.

As far as transfers, I wouldn’t be surprised if these guys leave…
Singleton (he’s not getting deep opps)
Leo (I can see him leaving to get more opportunities)
Horace (Wouldn’t be much of a loss because he hasn’t played, but I think we’ve missed him this year, and will def need him next year with the losses, does he RS/medical?)
Pyron leaves if he graduates
Cooley (If he has eligibility. I thought he would have last year)
Ethan Mackenny???? I know he and Key are tight but…

Hopefully Tahj and Taye don’t get poached. Other programs are certainly gonna try.

I can’t imagine Haynes, Jamal, Malik or any of our starting OL leaving.
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Why would Haynes King stay?

 

[Thwg777]

I said this above somewhere, but I actually had these records flipped. I thought this year 8 wins was attainable (it was), and I thought next year we’d take a step back. After looking again, and potentially an easier slate, maybe we could get to 7-8 if we’re VERY lucky and CRUSH the portal (I don’t see that happening). But we lose the following at a minimum.

Your analysis is much better than mine. Mine is based on 20 years of bias and prejudice against other football teams. In my mind for 2025, we’re only a clear underdog to Clempson and u(sic)ga, there are a handful of coin-flip games, and the rest we’re favored in.

I refuse to learn the same lesson every year… every year I assume the stuff working will keep working and the stuff not working will either get better or at least not get worse. And nearly every year I’m wrong and ranting :/

It does seem as if the overall ‘chaos’ factor in college football is up… damn near impossible to predict out in time anymore. Indiana is ranked higher than Alabama. The same Alabama that handed u(sic)ga it’s only loss. And an undefeated F$U program from last year is already bowl ineligible in October this year.

 

[yeti92]

I said this above somewhere, but I actually had these records flipped. I thought this year 8 wins was attainable (it was), and I thought next year we’d take a step back. After looking again, and potentially an easier slate, maybe we could get to 7-8 if we’re VERY lucky and CRUSH the portal (I don’t see that happening). But we lose the following at a minimum. Do some of these guys listed as Sr still have an extra year? On offense I think OL will be ok. Does Cooley get a medical? Could use a good TE and WR from the portal, along with a big back. Will have Seither back. On defense, we’re gonna have to work wonders on DL in the portal, because we lose almost everyone who is getting snaps.

As far as transfers, I wouldn’t be surprised if these guys leave…
Singleton (he’s not getting deep opps)
Leo (I can see him leaving to get more opportunities)
Horace (Wouldn’t be much of a loss because he hasn’t played, but I think we’ve missed him this year, and will def need him next year with the losses, does he RS/medical?)
Pyron leaves if he graduates
Cooley (If he has eligibility. I thought he would have last year)
Ethan Mackenny???? I know he and Key are tight but…

Hopefully Tahj and Taye don’t get poached. Other programs are certainly gonna try.

I can’t imagine Haynes, Jamal, Malik or any of our starting OL leaving.
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Not going to worry about it right now, but yea I think we are losing a lot more talent from this year into next year than we did coming into this season. I think this year may have been the year to show out and we did not capitalize.

 

[forensicbuzz]

Why would Haynes King stay?

Why wouldn't Haynes King stay?

 

[gtee91]

Why wouldn't Haynes King stay?

Championship level program just needs a QB to win it all so they offer him $$$$ ? It could happen

 

[gtee91]

Not going to worry about it right now, but yea I think we are losing a lot more talent from this year into next year than we did coming into this season. I think this year may have been the year to show out and we did not capitalize.

This is my greatest fear regarding college football....we had a tiny window to progress and we wasted it and will be left behind

 

[Root4GT]

Why would Haynes King stay?

Likely he is not an NFL caliber player. He might be getting a decent NIL sum of money, His other option is to transfer one more time and try to win the starting QB job. Given all that he may stay one more year.

 

[forensicbuzz]

Championship level program just needs a QB to win it all so they offer him $$$$ ? It could happen

He's made it through 1 season without missing games for injuries. Had 2 seasons ended prematurely.

While I'm thrilled to have him at GT, will someone actually throw enough money at him to get him to move to a new program and new system for 1 year? I just don't see that happening.