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Jackets wrap up brutal stretch Saturday in Tallahassee

AD Gueye has notched 10+ points in 5 consecutive ACC games played (photo courtesy of FloridaToday.com

Georgia Tech wraps up a tough 8 game run against Florida State Saturday at Noon

The ACC is a treacherous beast at times. For instance, a young Notre Dame squad just had a Saturday-Monday turn around. While both games were at home, they were against arguably the two best teams in the nation, Duke and Virginia. The Irish lost both games by more than 20 points.

The Yellow Jackets aren’t in the middle of a quick turn around such as that, but they are set to wrap up a tough 8 game stretch on Saturday with a trip to Tallahassee. Since January 9th, the Jackets have played four games against top 15 Kenpom teams, while 3 of the other 4 are top 45 teams. Notre Dame was the outlier at #94.

Saturday’s opponent, Florida State, has the reputation as an underachiever halfway through the ACC slate while ranking #26 by Pomeroy’s metrics. The Seminoles have seemingly righted the ship lately with wins at home against Clemson and on the road in Coral Gables after a three game losing streak. They sit at 15-5 (3-4) and just ahead of the Jackets in the ACC standings.

Florida State is led by longtime ACC head coach Leonard Hamilton who is in his 17th season as the Seminoles’ head man. He also led Miami for 10 seasons in the 90’s when the ‘Canes were part of the Big East. His record at FSU is 342-213 (138-137), but in the past four seasons is 84-40 (32-27) with three postseason births, including an elite eight run last season with almost the exact same roster as this year. Since 2008-09 he has only finished outside the top 6 in the league four times. While he may be the epitome of mediocrity in the ACC, there is something to be said for being consistently competitive in the toughest basketball league in the country.

Unlike most teams in the league, FSU is a “sum of its parts” team instead of being led by one particular star. If I were to choose a player most important to their success, it would be their sixth man Fi Kabengele. The nephew of NBA Hall of Fame Center Dikembe Mutombo has been the lighthouse for FSU during league play, averaging 15.3 points and and 6.4 rebounds off the bench in just 21.3 minutes per game. While Phil Cofer has dealt with a lingering foot injury, Kabengele has seemingly taken over as the leader of this team on the court.

Terance Mann (17 ppg in 3 games against GT) and Trent Forrest make up Hamilton’s starting back court and while both are talented, neither is a true point guard. On the season FSU is 244th in the nation in turnover percentage at 19.8%. They have tightened it up in league play a bit, bringing that number down to 17.6%, but that is still just middle of the pack in the ACC. Their turnover problems were somewhat acceptable during the out of conference because they were turning their opponents over at nearly 23%, but in league play that number has also fallen to mirror their own number at 17.6%.

Florida State’s biggest assets are their length and athleticism combined with their depth. As mentioned before, their leading scorer comes off the bench. That is mostly due to Kabengele’s inability to stay out of foul trouble (5.9 fouls per 40) as well as having a 7’4″ behemoth at starting center, JM Christ Koumadje. JMCK, now a senior, only plays 16 minutes per game but has an incredible impact in the paint while on the court. His per 40 stats are 15-12-4 blocks.

Depth on the wing is not a concern for Hamilton, who has a plethora of capable players, some excelling offensively and others locking down on defense. Former McDonald’s All American MJ Walker is still trying to figure it out in his sophomore season that was impacted early on by a leg injury, but the 6’5″ scorer is coming off of his best game of the season, scoring 22 points (6-7 from deep) against Miami on the road. PJ Savoy is also still in Tallahassee and still hunting his shot like Adam Greentree hunts Elk.

Defensively, David Nichols, a transfer from Albany, is relentless on the ball and gives maximum effort. 6’5″ Devin Vassell also gives quality defensive minutes off the bench as one of the best freshman defenders in a league this year.

Cofer, who led the team in scoring last season, missed most of the out of conference slate with a foot injury. Since his return in late December he has not been as effective, averaging just 8.4 points and 3 rebounds and notching double figures only twice in 8 games. He sat a couple of recent games due to the injury before returning for the Miami game where he scored 4 points in 19 minutes.

Perhaps the most concerning statistic for this game is Florida State’s ability to rebound the ball on the offensive glass. The Seminoles are 20th in the nation at 35.6% in offensive rebounding, while Georgia Tech ranks 283rd in the nation and 13th in the ACC in giving up second chances. The interesting thing here is that Georgia Tech just held the fourth best team in the league in offensive rebounding (UNC) to just 5 OR’s for the game on Tuesday. Yet another feast or famine statistic when it comes to the Yellow Jackets.

During the Josh Pastner era the Jackets have split the series with FSU 1-1, with each home team collecting a win. Dating back to the 2010-11 season however, Georgia Tech is 2-6 against the ‘Noles with a 1-3 record in Tallahassee. That singular win came in February 2016. The Seminoles are also an impressive 51-7 in home games dating back to the 2015-16 season.

All in all, it doesn’t look great for the good guys in this one, but after the first 25 minutes of the Duke game, who knows? FSU has not looked great since Cam Reddish hit that triple in Tallahassee, and their wins over Miami and Clemson don’t look as good as the losses to Pitt and Boston College look bad. Kenpom has the game at 71-61 FSU, while Haslam has it at 71-58 FSU. I think it is too many points in both instances. I like the Jackets to cover, but Tallahassee is a tough place to play. I think this will be a squeaker.

 

 
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YlJacket

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The upside is I don't think FSU is going to take 2 steps back from the 3 point line - just outside our zone - and start draining 3's like UNC did. From that point of view I think we should do better defensively. On the other side, FSU is going to go over screens like UNC did and keep a long 6'5" to 6'7" guy in front of Jose and Devoe greatly limiting their effectiveness and ability to create. Duke switched everything which we took advantage of - UNC made it harder. I expect FSU to be the same.
 

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This game won't be close.

uNC killed our nerves, we play relaxed and add buckets to our D. We lead by 8 at the half and win by 20.
 

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I think so too. I don't think FSU can shoot well enough to get 12 on us.
Not sure I would mortgage the homestead - but would bet lunch money next week.
 

mstranahan

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Jeezus. In the last 6:09 of the game, we scored exactly TWO points. FSU scored 6. Ugh That is some seriously bad basketball. If we had just made shots, we win the game.

Not sure what was going on with rims in the conference, but VPI beat the WoofPack 47-24. Yes. 24.
 

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Jeezus. In the last 6:09 of the game, we scored exactly TWO points. FSU scored 6. Ugh That is some seriously bad basketball. If we had just made shots, we win the game.

Not sure what was going on with rims in the conference, but VPI beat the WoofPack 47-24. Yes. 24.
Yeah. We aren't going to win games going 3-21 from 3. Most of those were very good looks too. Haywood 0-6 and Alvarado 0-5 from 3. They each have to hit at least 2 a game for us to have a chance. At least Devoe has somewhat found his stroke.
 

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Haywood is clearly the biggest disappointment of this season. On 3s, he’s 1 for his last 22, with MANY of them GREAT looks. I’ve said before, he could benefit from a sports psychologist, his mental game crashes with misses. Just don’t know if he’s ever going to improve much, may have hit ceiling and he’s supposed to be this team’s marksman.
 

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Haywood is clearly the biggest disappointment of this season. On 3s, he’s 1 for his last 22, with MANY of them GREAT looks. I’ve said before, he could benefit from a sports psychologist, his mental game crashes with misses. Just don’t know if he’s ever going to improve much, may have hit ceiling and he’s supposed to be this team’s marksman.
2 great moves with his off hand and good passer and defender. He’s obviously got talent.
 

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Haywood is clearly the biggest disappointment of this season. On 3s, he’s 1 for his last 22, with MANY of them GREAT looks. I’ve said before, he could benefit from a sports psychologist, his mental game crashes with misses. Just don’t know if he’s ever going to improve much, may have hit ceiling and he’s supposed to be this team’s marksman.

Man I wonder why the kid might be struggling mentally with All the support around the program.


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I like Haywood, but he's 1-22 for 3's in his last 5 games. I'm glad Alston's back on the court. If anything he does provide some offense and (not saying a lot) is our best 3 pt shooter, although I believe Devoe may end up with that crown.
 

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Keep shooting Curt. A bad attempt from CGB is better than a good attempt from anyone else on this team save Devoe.
I agree. The only way for him to get out of it is to shoot. We just desperately need him to hit 2 or 3 a game.
 

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Gueye was 6 for 7. The rest of the team was 11 for 53. 20.7%. It's unbelievable that a college team--much less an ACC team--shoots this poorly.

It's a recruiting issue.

None of the last 3 staffs would have recruited Mark Price.
 

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Well thank God that stretch is over. We get two whole games before our next set of back to back top 25 match ups. This league is killer man.

Straight killer.


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Gueye was 6 for 7. The rest of the team was 11 for 53. 20.7%. It's unbelievable that a college team--much less an ACC team--shoots this poorly.

It's a recruiting issue.

None of the last 3 staffs would have recruited Mark Price.
Y’all think we were bad today. Imagine being NC State. They dropped 24 huge points on VT today @ a 16.7% clip.
 
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