Is college football near the end as we know it.

Ibeeballin

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GT_05 said:
More and more folks seem to be warming up to socialist ideas (not me) so maybe if the player earns money from his likeness then he has to split it with his teammates. I think I’ve heard this called “redistributing the wealth”. Sounds fair. Why should an offensive lineman not make any money while the guy he’s blocking for make all of it? [emoji41] It would effectively neuter the California law and prevent some of the play-for-pay problems that have been mentioned here.




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What you think is going on now? FB & BBall is turning a profit and is sharing with everyone else
 
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Ibeeballin said:
What you think is going on now? FB & BBall is turning a profit and is sharing with everyone else
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I’m not sure how your reply relates to my post. For example, are you saying JeT might have paid Okogie? If so, for what? What I was saying is if Trevor Lawrence got paid for his likeness then he should have to split it with his team. That happens now?

Regardless, I was being facetious. My previous post sounds as ridiculous as the legislation and that was my point.


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This will definitely change the power of the NCAA to enforce anything.
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Do they enforce anything regarding their cash cows now? If Georgia Tech or say Tulane pays for a recruit to go to a club or something then the mighty NCAA swoops down in righteous indignation but otherwise forgetaboutit as they say in New Jersey. I think there is a very good chance this is a tempest in a teapot that will result in a few famous players making some side dough off endorsements and that's it. However, it is difficult to believe that the Title IX crowd are going to sit back and watch football players make off with the loot and do nothing.
 
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Heisman's Ghost said:
Do they enforce anything regarding their cash cows now? If Georgia Tech or say Tulane pays for a recruit to go to a club or something then the mighty NCAA swoops down in righteous indignation but otherwise forgetaboutit as they say in New Jersey. I think there is a very good chance this is a tempest in a teapot that will result in a few famous players making some side dough off endorsements and that's it. However, it is difficult to believe that the Title IX crowd are going to sit back and watch football players make off with the loot and do nothing.
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As long as schools are not directly involved, Title IX should not apply. I am also not a lawyer, so I cannot attest to the veracity of that.
 

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ibeattetris said:
As long as schools are not directly involved, Title IX should not apply. I am also not a lawyer, so I cannot attest to the veracity of that.
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I am not confident that the schools are not involved...either directly or indirectly. Title IX lawyers will find out one way or another. In any event, these schools will have crossed the threshold into hiring, in a manner of speaking "semi professionals" for pay. Maybe the bottom feeders will be OK with that...or maybe not.
 
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Jerry Jones holds a high school all star game at his stadium that pays kids appearance fee, and awards endorsement contracts with 15 kids a year to go to his alma mater Arkansas. He could make the game flag football and donate all gate receipts to cancer research.

There is no limit to the nonsense. It is the end of college football and basketball as we know it at any level.
 

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GTBandman said:
Jerry Jones holds a high school all star game at his stadium that pays kids appearance fee, and awards endorsement contracts with 15 kids a year to go to his alma mater Arkansas. He could make the game flag football and donate all gate receipts to cancer research.

There is no limit to the nonsense. It is the end of college football and basketball as we know it at any level.
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Exactly. This is going to happen all over the place. Right now it’s limited to bag men with duffel bags of cash. Once this changes it will essentially be legal for anyone not working for the school to write checks to any player for any amount of money. Hell, what's to stop the schools from getting involved? They can work directly with fans and large enterprises to identify who they want to get paid and get them the money.

If this is what it’s going to be then it just needs to be a pro sport. Drop the education aspect altogether, let the players all make a salary, cap it, let them have endorsement deals on the side, etc. Perhaps this sounds harsh, but basically stop wasting the scholarships of kids who apparently don’t value them and give them to young men and women that very much would.

If this all happens it will become apparent very quickly who the true winners and losers are.
 
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Make multiple tiers of smaller but paid college football leagues and implement promotion and relegation.
 

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bke1984 said:
If this all happens it will become apparent very quickly who the true winners and losers are.
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I think it's pretty apparent now who is all in on winning. It's been pretty obvious ever since the Bowl Coalition started. If you are not willing to use bag men and processing to get the very best players now, you have almost no chance to make the final four in the CFP. These playoff systems have made it all about getting to final four and then winning it all. Lower tier Bowls mean nothing. Conf Championships mean almost nothing to the very top teams that expect to be in the top 5 or so every year.

If this all really happens, we will probably stay about mid-pack as we are now. But it probably will make it harder for us to have those really good outlier years like 2014 & 2009. Unless a few of our rich boosters step up and do the right thing.
 

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Buzzrock said:
Make multiple tiers of smaller but paid college football leagues and implement promotion and relegation.
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The problem with relegation is TV and Conf revenue sharing. What Power 5 conf teams will be willing to agree to risk hundreds of millions of guaranteed conf dollars. Esp the small private schools like Vandy Wake Ill Nwestern etc. The Power 5 conf schools would have to keep the $ even if they got relagated.
 
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IM79 said:
The problem with relegation is TV and Conf revenue sharing. What Power 5 conf teams will be willing to agree to risk hundreds of millions of guaranteed conf dollars. Esp the small private schools like Vandy Wake Ill Nwestern etc. The Power 5 conf schools would have to keep the $ even if they got relagated.
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Yep....I love promotion and relegation but I think to do it you have to do away with conferences and there is too much money tied up in that right now. It would be pretty awesome though...
 

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If the incident that involved Law Enforcement, Pruitt of UT, and his star LB are true, I don’t know what to say. If it comes down to that to have a great team, I’m not sure I could stomach it as a fan. The NFL has already turned me off with their antics.
 
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stech81 said:
https://www.latimes.com/california/...athlete-endorsement-deals-ncaa-california-law



California became the first state to require major financial reforms in college athletics on Monday after Gov. Gavin Newsom signed into law a measure that allows players to receive endorsement deals, despite the National Collegiate Athletic Assn. calling the move unconstitutional.

End of college sports or the end of NCAA ?
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The NCAA has become nothing more than a platform for players to audition for the NFL. The schools that do it right, are not your top schools. Once upon a time, playing for a scholarship meant something. Now, it's all about money... Money someone will get or plans to get.
 

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IM79 said:
I think it's pretty apparent now who is all in on winning. It's been pretty obvious ever since the Bowl Coalition started. If you are not willing to use bag men and processing to get the very best players now, you have almost no chance to make the final four in the CFP. These playoff systems have made it all about getting to final four and then winning it all. Lower tier Bowls mean nothing. Conf Championships mean almost nothing to the very top teams that expect to be in the top 5 or so every year.

If this all really happens, we will probably stay about mid-pack as we are now. But it probably will make it harder for us to have those really good outlier years like 2014 & 2009. Unless a few of our rich boosters step up and do the right thing.
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I was talking about the kids
 
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Colleges offer scholarships, free education, for amateur sports. For a very very long time. Scholarships have value. No one is forced to participate. It’s voluntary. Colleges wish to keep their sports amateur sports. That’s their right.

I find it pretty amusing folks get so offended by this.

If a player thinks they are good enough to make money they should go pro. If the league they want to enter won’t let them for age or other reasons....take that up with the appropriate league.
 
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