If a change is made...

[ibeattetris]

I can't see Tech destroying UCF, but I hope they've read enough bad stuff about the losses that they get fired up and win one.
It's a weird time to be a Tech fan. We've lost all faith or even hope in the coach, but we still want to win.

From the interviews with the current players, they seem to like Collins. Maybe all of the negative criticism this week will motivate them to keep their coaches job (since it seems like winning hasn't been enough motivation the last 3 seasons).

 

[wvGT11]

If we lose this weekend , I can't see Collins keeping his job and will be gone before homecoming. Too much fan hate on him for homecoming.
Otherwise, he will likely be given the chance to finish the season.

He's had plenty of chances to backup his claims of making this program elite and plenty of chances to fix the mistakes. So why should we continue to give him more time to right the ship ?

 

[bobongo]

From the interviews with the current players, they seem to like Collins. Maybe all of the negative criticism this week will motivate them to keep their coaches job (since it seems like winning hasn't been enough motivation the last 3 seasons).

If they really like him, they'll play hard for him this week. We'll see what happens...

 

[bobongo]

I think the more pertinent question is if he is fired after UCF. If the buyout is Jan 1 instead of the end of the season, that only increases the chances that we move on from CGC during the season. UCF is a chance to even up our record before our ACC slate begins. The way we lost last weekend has got the gears in motion to move on from CGC but I just don't think anything is going to happen fast.

If it isn't this weekend, we probably won't see anything until after the Virginia game. Hypothetically, Duke and UVA are our two most winnable games (if we have such a thing) left on our early football schedule. VT is so late in the year it likely doesn't factor in. We have an outside chance of being 3-4 after the UVA game, more likely we will be 1-6. If we are 1-6 after UVA I think he will be fired then.

On another note. I know that the TStan being hitched to CGC debate is still raging. I am rather neutral on TStan and don't really care if he stays or leaves. Could any of us imagine TStan and Deion in a press conference together though? They just don't seem like they would meld together. The sunglasses on display in that press conference would be something else though.

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Thumbs up for the sunglass contrast. The whole contrast altogether, LOL.

 

[Sheboygan]

Could this possibly be happening at Tech ?

Herm Edwards' staff helped get him fired in unbelievable way

Members of the Arizona State athletic department wanted Herm Edwards fired so bad they shared intel with other teams to sabotage him.

thecomeback.com

 

[Vespidae]

For you business/corporate types, if Collins has any aspirations of ever getting a HC position again, would it be better for his resume to have three 3 win seasons and a partial season asterisk or three 3-win seasons and fourth season with only 1, 2 or 3 wins? I contend he could benefit from the former by spinning being fired in mid season as being right on the cusp of turning it all around in the second half.

General Custer: "If only those Indians hadn't shown up, we'd a won. No question!"

 

[Sheboygan]

From the interviews with the current players, they seem to like Collins. Maybe all of the negative criticism this week will motivate them to keep their coaches job (since it seems like winning hasn't been enough motivation the last 3 seasons).

He IS a likeable guy....... he is just not a HC. No sin in that, but he should recognize it by now and resign, IMO.

 

[Vespidae]

If we lose this weekend , I can't see Collins keeping his job and will be gone before homecoming. Too much fan hate on him for homecoming.
Otherwise, he will likely be given the chance to finish the season.

He's had plenty of chances to backup his claims of making this program elite and plenty of chances to fix the mistakes. So why should we continue to give him more time to right the ship ?

If Collins wins this weekend, I could see TStan giving him a $30M 5 year extension.

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

From the interviews with the current players, they seem to like Collins. Maybe all of the negative criticism this week will motivate them to keep their coaches job (since it seems like winning hasn't been enough motivation the last 3 seasons).

If they like him so much, they can start playing ball. There is no way of knowing the true sentiment on a team like this.

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

Could this possibly be happening at Tech ?

Herm Edwards' staff helped get him fired in unbelievable way

Members of the Arizona State athletic department wanted Herm Edwards fired so bad they shared intel with other teams to sabotage him.

thecomeback.com

No. Why bother? The players are not playing, the coaches aren't coaching, the fans are not doing much of anything except bitching but they do that any way.

 

[bobongo]

Could this possibly be happening at Tech ?

Herm Edwards' staff helped get him fired in unbelievable way

Members of the Arizona State athletic department wanted Herm Edwards fired so bad they shared intel with other teams to sabotage him.

thecomeback.com

My word, I should hope not. That's way over the line in more ways than one. I wouldn't want him or his assistants.

 

[Sheboygan]

My word, I should hope not. That's way over the line in more ways than one. I wouldn't want him or his assistants.

Me either. It is almost too hard to believe that it could happen really. I would be surprised it was published if it wasn't corroborated.

 

[CEB]

For you business/corporate types, if Collins has any aspirations of ever getting a HC position again, would it be better for his resume to have three 3 win seasons and a partial season asterisk or three 3-win seasons and fourth season with only 1, 2 or 3 wins? I contend he could benefit from the former by spinning being fired in mid season as being right on the cusp of turning it all around in the second half.

Actually an interesting question....
If I’m an employer, I am skeptical of anyone who has to be removed in the midst of a project / season. If the people closest to the situation don’t see things getting better, it’s hard to accept a candidate telling me it was just about to turn around when he / she was relieved of duty.
I think Collins’ best hope of resume building is to get a couple big wins down the stretch and finish with at least 4 total.
I don’t see any difference in a mid season dismissal or another season with 3 or fewer wins. Just no polishing that turd...

 

[GTLorenzo]

Ok, hypothetical. If Collins were to win every game remaining, make the CFB playoffs, win the Natty, set a new Tech record for season ticket sales, have Geoff be the most popular name for babies ... do you think Tech would keep him?

No.

 

[CEB]

No.

But too bad we agreed to that dang December 1st buyout reduction!!! Damnit TStan!!!

 

[GTLorenzo]

If Collins wins this weekend, I could see TStan giving him a $30M 5 year extension.

Fully guaranteed…

 

[gdamian]

I don’t personally disagree with anything you said.... but again, in the context of unwinding a signed contract, which was my premise, we can’t tell Collins he won’t win 7 until he CAN’T win 7... or 6... or 5...

The best predictor of future performance is past performance.

 

[CEB]

The best predictor of future performance is past performance.

What provision of the contract was that?

 

[GT33]

Could any of us imagine TStan and Deion in a press conference together though?

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Deion: I’ll start and when I’m done then you can ask my ***** questions.

 

[GT33]

If they like him so much, they can start playing ball. There is no way of knowing the true sentiment on a team like this.

They don’t LOVE Collins enough to win? That’s an interesting proposition.