How Much Time Does Is Reasonable To Evaluate CDS?

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Yes Damon & poor coaching I am thinking he has the I played in the NBA disease.He just looks clueless at times and makes me wonder does he listen to advice from others.We have struggled the last 20 yrs to find that set of dudes to lead our team and turn the program around.CJP was a good coach and person felt the goofy side of him may have turned off certain recruits. We lose both guards this year I don't think that we improve much without getting at least 2 proven guys out of the portal and make changes on the bench.I also feel we need to unlock Mustaf's complete game now for next year he should have started last night so we could avoid that scoring drought early on.
I know some think I didn't like Pastner. Its not entirely true. I though Josh was a good guy and to this day think New Mexico State offed up in a big way not making a play for him. (Maybe they did and he wasn't interested, I don't know) But I think the highlighted is important. Without starting a whole other conversation that we have already had, was he a good fit to recruit Atlanta? Cmon now.

Is he a great representation of your school as a person? absolutely. Also a better X's and O's coach than I gave him credit for before he came to town.
 

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If CDS can recruit elite players depite this teams play, there is hope for him and the program. My fear was / is, will recruits be turned off by this year's performance. If so, he's toast.
It took SHW 3 years to get to the NIT. His 4th he went to the E8. However, his pipeline was gold early on. Can’t assume CDS will have that. Still time to wait.
 

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Can always count on you to rile things up. Do you honestly think that all our problems this season (or even this loss) can attributed to Damon or just poor coaching?

All of the problems? No. But a lot of them yes. Injuries hurt, but the players we are missing aren't what people make them out to be. People were talking about Reeves like he is in contention for our best player. By potential maybe, but he's a senior. Potential doesn't mean much. This year he is giving us 9.3 and 2.5 on 39/28/60 shooting. Last year 9.8/4 on 42/38/84 shooting. Solid role player, but he also only scored in double digits in 7 of the 21 games against ACC teams last year. 2 points against UGA, 3 points against Cinci. Unfortunately he's not the answer to our problems. He'd help add some depth, but we have a lot more wrong than just wing depth. Obrien is similar. The hope is he could combine the rebounding/defense of his junior year and then shooting efficiency of his senior year to give us a great 3 and d type of piece. Unfortunately neither of those have proven to be true. His rebounding and defense are nothing to write home about and his #% is just 32%.

Are we better healthy? Yes. All teams are. Is there a reason to believe that explains the level of play we see? IMO not even close. Our offense is not well designed and is overly reliant on winning individual match ups. It's a big reason why when we have teams that we have a talent advantage against we are in the 80s and 90s, but against quality competition we struggle to get to 70 and are often in the 50s. We also have a tendency to start slow. We were healthy when we lost to UNF (8-9 overall. They aren't the mid major darling people thought after they beat Scar) by 12 at home. We were mostly healthy when we lost to Cinci (0-4 in the Big 12) by 23 at home. McCollum got hurt in this game, but played most of the first half and we were down by 16 at the half already. We were missing just Reeves when we got beat by 11 against Northwestern (1-4 in the big ten). And that score is closer than the game actually was. The injuries hurt, but we have serious problems outside of them.

A big reason for where we are is roster composition. This team very easily, imo, could have had the following.

Jalon Moore - 17.4/6 in 28.5 mpg for OU on 51/43/84 shooting. Wanted to stay, but told by CDS that he might only be playing 5 minutes some games, something you don't tell a player who was in the position Moore was if you want them to stay. I know some have their head in the sand about this but that was about as clear a case of running off a player as you're going to get.

Deivon Smith - 13.3 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 7.1 apg last year on 47/41/68 shooting for Utah and 10.8/5.7/4.4 on 45/41/73 shooting this year along with great defense. He transferred without knowing if he'd even be able to play last year, and it cost him about 10 games.

Miles Kelly - averaged 14.4/3.4 for us on 41/38/90 shooting as a sophomore. Stayed one year, saw his efficiency plummet due to worse shot selection in this offense, gets thrown under the bus and clearly seen as not one of CDS "guys". Transfers to Auburn and is putting up 10.4/3.4 on 44/44/86 shooting. And most of the reduction in raw stats is due to less minutes, as his per 40 scoring is only down 1 compared to last year but on significantly higher efficiency.

Those 3 + Terry would make for a great core, and the opportunity was there for instant success, at least to some degree, if CDS could bring in a couple of complimentary pieces and utilize them well. But it is clear to me he had little interest in coaching players who weren't his guys and overestimated his ability to attract instant impact transfers/recruits. He also hasn't shown the ability to get anywhere close to most out of his players and it seems the team as a whole is less than the sum of its parts to me.

To me, he doesn't seem to be a particularly strong xs and os coach (I think it's pointedly a weakness for him). He doesn't seem to be a particularly strong development coach (I don't think Baye,Nate, or Kowaci are improved compared to last year) although jury is still out to some degree. He doesn't seem to be a particularly strong player connection coach (Abram and Onwucheckwa along with the numerous transfers as well as his comments throwing players under the bus) again Jury out to some degree. About the only strength he has shown that I can see is recruiting, but it is "good enough to be competitive combined with competent coach" good. Not "we will talent our way to the NCAAT despite mediocre coaching" good.
 

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All of the problems? No. But a lot of them yes. Injuries hurt, but the players we are missing aren't what people make them out to be. People were talking about Reeves like he is in contention for our best player. By potential maybe, but he's a senior. Potential doesn't mean much. This year he is giving us 9.3 and 2.5 on 39/28/60 shooting. Last year 9.8/4 on 42/38/84 shooting. Solid role player, but he also only scored in double digits in 7 of the 21 games against ACC teams last year. 2 points against UGA, 3 points against Cinci. Unfortunately he's not the answer to our problems. He'd help add some depth, but we have a lot more wrong than just wing depth. Obrien is similar. The hope is he could combine the rebounding/defense of his junior year and then shooting efficiency of his senior year to give us a great 3 and d type of piece. Unfortunately neither of those have proven to be true. His rebounding and defense are nothing to write home about and his #% is just 32%.

Are we better healthy? Yes. All teams are. Is there a reason to believe that explains the level of play we see? IMO not even close. Our offense is not well designed and is overly reliant on winning individual match ups. It's a big reason why when we have teams that we have a talent advantage against we are in the 80s and 90s, but against quality competition we struggle to get to 70 and are often in the 50s. We also have a tendency to start slow. We were healthy when we lost to UNF (8-9 overall. They aren't the mid major darling people thought after they beat Scar) by 12 at home. We were mostly healthy when we lost to Cinci (0-4 in the Big 12) by 23 at home. McCollum got hurt in this game, but played most of the first half and we were down by 16 at the half already. We were missing just Reeves when we got beat by 11 against Northwestern (1-4 in the big ten). And that score is closer than the game actually was. The injuries hurt, but we have serious problems outside of them.

A big reason for where we are is roster composition. This team very easily, imo, could have had the following.

Jalon Moore - 17.4/6 in 28.5 mpg for OU on 51/43/84 shooting. Wanted to stay, but told by CDS that he might only be playing 5 minutes some games, something you don't tell a player who was in the position Moore was if you want them to stay. I know some have their head in the sand about this but that was about as clear a case of running off a player as you're going to get.

Deivon Smith - 13.3 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 7.1 apg last year on 47/41/68 shooting for Utah and 10.8/5.7/4.4 on 45/41/73 shooting this year along with great defense. He transferred without knowing if he'd even be able to play last year, and it cost him about 10 games.

Miles Kelly - averaged 14.4/3.4 for us on 41/38/90 shooting as a sophomore. Stayed one year, saw his efficiency plummet due to worse shot selection in this offense, gets thrown under the bus and clearly seen as not one of CDS "guys". Transfers to Auburn and is putting up 10.4/3.4 on 44/44/86 shooting. And most of the reduction in raw stats is due to less minutes, as his per 40 scoring is only down 1 compared to last year but on significantly higher efficiency.

Those 3 + Terry would make for a great core, and the opportunity was there for instant success, at least to some degree, if CDS could bring in a couple of complimentary pieces and utilize them well. But it is clear to me he had little interest in coaching players who weren't his guys and overestimated his ability to attract instant impact transfers/recruits. He also hasn't shown the ability to get anywhere close to most out of his players and it seems the team as a whole is less than the sum of its parts to me.

To me, he doesn't seem to be a particularly strong xs and os coach (I think it's pointedly a weakness for him). He doesn't seem to be a particularly strong development coach (I don't think Baye,Nate, or Kowaci are improved compared to last year) although jury is still out to some degree. He doesn't seem to be a particularly strong player connection coach (Abram and Onwucheckwa along with the numerous transfers as well as his comments throwing players under the bus) again Jury out to some degree. About the only strength he has shown that I can see is recruiting, but it is "good enough to be competitive combined with competent coach" good. Not "we will talent our way to the NCAAT despite mediocre coaching" good.
Wow...Gee Whiz, Iv20, this is the most damning "It isn't Damon's fault" post I can imagine....????
 

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All of the problems? No. But a lot of them yes. Injuries hurt, but the players we are missing aren't what people make them out to be. People were talking about Reeves like he is in contention for our best player. By potential maybe, but he's a senior. Potential doesn't mean much. This year he is giving us 9.3 and 2.5 on 39/28/60 shooting. Last year 9.8/4 on 42/38/84 shooting. Solid role player, but he also only scored in double digits in 7 of the 21 games against ACC teams last year. 2 points against UGA, 3 points against Cinci. Unfortunately he's not the answer to our problems. He'd help add some depth, but we have a lot more wrong than just wing depth. Obrien is similar. The hope is he could combine the rebounding/defense of his junior year and then shooting efficiency of his senior year to give us a great 3 and d type of piece. Unfortunately neither of those have proven to be true. His rebounding and defense are nothing to write home about and his #% is just 32%.

Are we better healthy? Yes. All teams are. Is there a reason to believe that explains the level of play we see? IMO not even close. Our offense is not well designed and is overly reliant on winning individual match ups. It's a big reason why when we have teams that we have a talent advantage against we are in the 80s and 90s, but against quality competition we struggle to get to 70 and are often in the 50s. We also have a tendency to start slow. We were healthy when we lost to UNF (8-9 overall. They aren't the mid major darling people thought after they beat Scar) by 12 at home. We were mostly healthy when we lost to Cinci (0-4 in the Big 12) by 23 at home. McCollum got hurt in this game, but played most of the first half and we were down by 16 at the half already. We were missing just Reeves when we got beat by 11 against Northwestern (1-4 in the big ten). And that score is closer than the game actually was. The injuries hurt, but we have serious problems outside of them.

A big reason for where we are is roster composition. This team very easily, imo, could have had the following.

Jalon Moore - 17.4/6 in 28.5 mpg for OU on 51/43/84 shooting. Wanted to stay, but told by CDS that he might only be playing 5 minutes some games, something you don't tell a player who was in the position Moore was if you want them to stay. I know some have their head in the sand about this but that was about as clear a case of running off a player as you're going to get.

Deivon Smith - 13.3 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 7.1 apg last year on 47/41/68 shooting for Utah and 10.8/5.7/4.4 on 45/41/73 shooting this year along with great defense. He transferred without knowing if he'd even be able to play last year, and it cost him about 10 games.

Miles Kelly - averaged 14.4/3.4 for us on 41/38/90 shooting as a sophomore. Stayed one year, saw his efficiency plummet due to worse shot selection in this offense, gets thrown under the bus and clearly seen as not one of CDS "guys". Transfers to Auburn and is putting up 10.4/3.4 on 44/44/86 shooting. And most of the reduction in raw stats is due to less minutes, as his per 40 scoring is only down 1 compared to last year but on significantly higher efficiency.

Those 3 + Terry would make for a great core, and the opportunity was there for instant success, at least to some degree, if CDS could bring in a couple of complimentary pieces and utilize them well. But it is clear to me he had little interest in coaching players who weren't his guys and overestimated his ability to attract instant impact transfers/recruits. He also hasn't shown the ability to get anywhere close to most out of his players and it seems the team as a whole is less than the sum of its parts to me.

To me, he doesn't seem to be a particularly strong xs and os coach (I think it's pointedly a weakness for him). He doesn't seem to be a particularly strong development coach (I don't think Baye,Nate, or Kowaci are improved compared to last year) although jury is still out to some degree. He doesn't seem to be a particularly strong player connection coach (Abram and Onwucheckwa along with the numerous transfers as well as his comments throwing players under the bus) again Jury out to some degree. About the only strength he has shown that I can see is recruiting, but it is "good enough to be competitive combined with competent coach" good. Not "we will talent our way to the NCAAT despite mediocre coaching" good.
@lv20gt has been a real downer on CDS since he was hired, but the post above makes a lot of points that are hard to argue against, except I’m not sad to be without Deivon Smith, even if his shooting seems to have improved after he left Tech.
 

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All of the problems? No. But a lot of them yes. Injuries hurt, but the players we are missing aren't what people make them out to be. People were talking about Reeves like he is in contention for our best player. By potential maybe, but he's a senior. Potential doesn't mean much. This year he is giving us 9.3 and 2.5 on 39/28/60 shooting. Last year 9.8/4 on 42/38/84 shooting. Solid role player, but he also only scored in double digits in 7 of the 21 games against ACC teams last year. 2 points against UGA, 3 points against Cinci. Unfortunately he's not the answer to our problems. He'd help add some depth, but we have a lot more wrong than just wing depth. Obrien is similar. The hope is he could combine the rebounding/defense of his junior year and then shooting efficiency of his senior year to give us a great 3 and d type of piece. Unfortunately neither of those have proven to be true. His rebounding and defense are nothing to write home about and his #% is just 32%.

Are we better healthy? Yes. All teams are. Is there a reason to believe that explains the level of play we see? IMO not even close. Our offense is not well designed and is overly reliant on winning individual match ups. It's a big reason why when we have teams that we have a talent advantage against we are in the 80s and 90s, but against quality competition we struggle to get to 70 and are often in the 50s. We also have a tendency to start slow. We were healthy when we lost to UNF (8-9 overall. They aren't the mid major darling people thought after they beat Scar) by 12 at home. We were mostly healthy when we lost to Cinci (0-4 in the Big 12) by 23 at home. McCollum got hurt in this game, but played most of the first half and we were down by 16 at the half already. We were missing just Reeves when we got beat by 11 against Northwestern (1-4 in the big ten). And that score is closer than the game actually was. The injuries hurt, but we have serious problems outside of them.

A big reason for where we are is roster composition. This team very easily, imo, could have had the following.

Jalon Moore - 17.4/6 in 28.5 mpg for OU on 51/43/84 shooting. Wanted to stay, but told by CDS that he might only be playing 5 minutes some games, something you don't tell a player who was in the position Moore was if you want them to stay. I know some have their head in the sand about this but that was about as clear a case of running off a player as you're going to get.

Deivon Smith - 13.3 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 7.1 apg last year on 47/41/68 shooting for Utah and 10.8/5.7/4.4 on 45/41/73 shooting this year along with great defense. He transferred without knowing if he'd even be able to play last year, and it cost him about 10 games.

Miles Kelly - averaged 14.4/3.4 for us on 41/38/90 shooting as a sophomore. Stayed one year, saw his efficiency plummet due to worse shot selection in this offense, gets thrown under the bus and clearly seen as not one of CDS "guys". Transfers to Auburn and is putting up 10.4/3.4 on 44/44/86 shooting. And most of the reduction in raw stats is due to less minutes, as his per 40 scoring is only down 1 compared to last year but on significantly higher efficiency.

Those 3 + Terry would make for a great core, and the opportunity was there for instant success, at least to some degree, if CDS could bring in a couple of complimentary pieces and utilize them well. But it is clear to me he had little interest in coaching players who weren't his guys and overestimated his ability to attract instant impact transfers/recruits. He also hasn't shown the ability to get anywhere close to most out of his players and it seems the team as a whole is less than the sum of its parts to me.

To me, he doesn't seem to be a particularly strong xs and os coach (I think it's pointedly a weakness for him). He doesn't seem to be a particularly strong development coach (I don't think Baye,Nate, or Kowaci are improved compared to last year) although jury is still out to some degree. He doesn't seem to be a particularly strong player connection coach (Abram and Onwucheckwa along with the numerous transfers as well as his comments throwing players under the bus) again Jury out to some degree. About the only strength he has shown that I can see is recruiting, but it is "good enough to be competitive combined with competent coach" good. Not "we will talent our way to the NCAAT despite mediocre coaching" good.

I actually agree with a lot of this post. I've been following those guys off and on this year and have similar feelings.

I really thought Deivon Smith was one player that was going to thrive for Stoudamire...unfortunately, we never got to see what would happen. Amare Abram is another guy who I thought would have thrived, but he was pretty much relegated to glorified spectator. There's a post I made last season, which basically outlined my thinking that GT could potentially have 5-7 guys that could average around double figures, or at least had the ability to. We ended with 5 guys that were close, but it wasn't the 5 I thought it would be (George and Ndongo came out of nowhere, while Abram and Coleman had some issues).

I can't put my finger on it, but it does seem Stoudamire's system has a LOT of boom or bust type output from player to player each game.

TBH, as I alluded to in another thread, I sadly see a similarities in the performances of Stoudamire's teams and Geoff Collins's teams. I hope Stoudamire proves me wrong when some of the guys get back to full health, but seeing the product earlier in the season when most of the team was healthy doesn't give me good feelings the rest of this season.
 

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I know some think I didn't like Pastner. Its not entirely true. I though Josh was a good guy and to this day think New Mexico State offed up in a big way not making a play for him. (Maybe they did and he wasn't interested, I don't know) But I think the highlighted is important. Without starting a whole other conversation that we have already had, was he a good fit to recruit Atlanta? Cmon now.

Is he a great representation of your school as a person? absolutely. Also a better X's and O's coach than I gave him credit for before he came to town.
The Ron Bell and LaBerrie incidents hurt him and cast a shadow over him as a guy running a high level P5 Bb program. I think he was personally too trusting a human. Good guy though.
 

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The Ron Bell and LaBerrie incidents hurt him and cast a shadow over him as a guy running a high level P5 Bb program. I think he was personally too trusting a human. Good guy though.
I think the Bell situation specifically was pretty transparent, especially to those on this board. That was one of those things we read and all together said “haaaaaaaa NAHHHHHHHHH”

Of course, some people are stupid, like national journalists residing in Memphis.
 

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Maybe Year 4 is the sweet spot. SOS is interesting.​

Coaching Record​


SeasonSchoolConfGWLW-L%SRSSOSAP PreAP HighAP FinalNotesAdjusted
2016-17PacificWCC33*11*22*.333-4.572.09*Overall W-L adjusted to 4-22
2017-18PacificWCC321418.438-0.551.80
2018-19PacificWCC321418.438-2.461.97
2019-20PacificWCC332310.6973.810.19
2020-21PacificWCC1899.5002.645.23
2023-24Georgia TechACC321418.4384.608.82
2024-25Georgia TechACC18810.4445.413.69
CareerOverall19893105.4701.273.40
PacificMen's1487177.480-0.232.26
Georgia TechMen's502228.4405.006.25
 
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Northeast Stinger

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All? No.

Failure to adjust the offensive scheme to fit the roster? Yes

18 games in and he’s got the 12lb sledge out beating that square peg into a round hole, destroying the peg and the board.

It’s not my intent to rile things up. I DGAF if anyone agrees with me. But I’m gonna say what I’m thinking.
Finally going to come clean with us, eh?
 

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Is DS trying to run a NBA offense in college? I think that is what he knows. So far he has some talent on paper but it hasn't transferred to his system. I am not sure his record of improvement at Pacific will transfer to GT in today's college environment. Too many transfers to build a solid nucleus and develop the system the coach wants to play. His big attraction for recruits seems to be his NBA contacts and running a NBA-like offense. How much time will Batt and our donors give him?
 

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Is DS trying to run a NBA offense in college? I think that is what he knows. So far he has some talent on paper but it hasn't transferred to his system. I am not sure his record of improvement at Pacific will transfer to GT in today's college environment. Too many transfers to build a solid nucleus and develop the system the coach wants to play. His big attraction for recruits seems to be his NBA contacts and running a NBA-like offense. How much time will Batt and our donors give him?
I remember him in first year interviews saying he was going to run NBA offenses and defenses.

He’s backed off of that on defense
 

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There is a difference between blame and accountability. Leaders by definition delegate problem solving to those under their supervision. So there are parties intervening between actual physical performance and the leader. So their are always "reasons" why performance is poor that do not directly soil the hands of the leader.

But the thing is, leaders are accountable. As a matter of fact, that is why we have leaders, to organize and be accountable for on the ground performance.

Damon Stoudamire is not missing the shots or turning ankles. In that respect, he may not be the problem.

But the fine edge of the matter is he hasn't been the solution either. And that is the thing, he is supposed to be the problem solver. He is supposed to have the solutions to the problems.

Identifying "reasons" for poor performance does not exonerate a leader for poor performance for which he is accountable. And as Clint Eastwood famously said in "Unforgiven," "Deseerve's got nothing to do with it."
 

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Feeling a lot of internal tension about what I’m seeing and what I’m hearing some of you say.

Yes, it looks like an offense based on getting one on one matchups and beating your man. For that to work consistently you literally have to have more talent on the court than your opposition. Which of our players could play one on one against their ACC counterpart and win consistently? The lack of movement and people seemingly waiting around to see if their teammate beats someone off the dribble looks like bad street ball.

I’ve resisted putting these things in words because I’ve been holding out for the possibility that something else is going on that I’m not seeing. I’ve wondered if CDS wants the players running an offense that is sophisticated and they are only getting parts of it right because it takes time to master and the lineup has changed too much due to extenuating circumstances. Hence the standing around look.

But this also begs the question, why not run a few designed plays to get certain players involved in the offense? This was always a kind of standard thing is you wanted to get one of your shooters back in the groove. This also would make the opponent’s defense have to work a little harder and burn off some of their energy for running the court.

So, the bottom line is that it “looks” like we don’t have the talent level to run the kind of offense CDS wants and running some more traditional set offenses might help the team be more productive.

What I really hope is that someone on here sets me straight. Please tell me I know nothing about basketball and that what I think I’m seeing is not actually what is happening. I would even be satisfied if someone makes a strong case for team chemistry being compromised by all the key injuries.

Who can tell me what keeps you somewhat hopeful?
 

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Feeling a lot of internal tension about what I’m seeing and what I’m hearing some of you say.

Yes, it looks like an offense based on getting one on one matchups and beating your man. For that to work consistently you literally have to have more talent on the court than your opposition. Which of our players could play one on one against their ACC counterpart and win consistently? The lack of movement and people seemingly waiting around to see if their teammate beats someone off the dribble looks like bad street ball.

I’ve resisted putting these things in words because I’ve been holding out for the possibility that something else is going on that I’m not seeing. I’ve wondered if CDS wants the players running an offense that is sophisticated and they are only getting parts of it right because it takes time to master and the lineup has changed too much due to extenuating circumstances. Hence the standing around look.

But this also begs the question, why not run a few designed plays to get certain players involved in the offense? This was always a kind of standard thing is you wanted to get one of your shooters back in the groove. This also would make the opponent’s defense have to work a little harder and burn off some of their energy for running the court.

So, the bottom line is that it “looks” like we don’t have the talent level to run the kind of offense CDS wants and running some more traditional set offenses might help the team be more productive.

What I really hope is that someone on here sets me straight. Please tell me I know nothing about basketball and that what I think I’m seeing is not actually what is happening. I would even be satisfied if someone makes a strong case for team chemistry being compromised by all the key injuries.

Who can tell me what keeps you somewhat hopeful?
Northeast,
I do not think you will see anything different. Below is a cutout of an article when he began Damon's college head coach time at Pacific in 2016. Damon stated his philosophy he learned from Lute Olson and Sean Miller at Arizona (no mention of Josh Pastner). No set plays, all instincts and what he calls disciplined freedom. Is that what we have seen so far at Tech? I am not sure we can define that when we see it, nor it can even be defined in basketball terms. I guess the success is measured in getting betrter players.
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Tommy_Taylor_1972

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Feeling a lot of internal tension about what I’m seeing and what I’m hearing some of you say.

Yes, it looks like an offense based on getting one on one matchups and beating your man. For that to work consistently you literally have to have more talent on the court than your opposition. Which of our players could play one on one against their ACC counterpart and win consistently? The lack of movement and people seemingly waiting around to see if their teammate beats someone off the dribble looks like bad street ball.

I’ve resisted putting these things in words because I’ve been holding out for the possibility that something else is going on that I’m not seeing. I’ve wondered if CDS wants the players running an offense that is sophisticated and they are only getting parts of it right because it takes time to master and the lineup has changed too much due to extenuating circumstances. Hence the standing around look.

But this also begs the question, why not run a few designed plays to get certain players involved in the offense? This was always a kind of standard thing is you wanted to get one of your shooters back in the groove. This also would make the opponent’s defense have to work a little harder and burn off some of their energy for running the court.

So, the bottom line is that it “looks” like we don’t have the talent level to run the kind of offense CDS wants and running some more traditional set offenses might help the team be more productive.

What I really hope is that someone on here sets me straight. Please tell me I know nothing about basketball and that what I think I’m seeing is not actually what is happening. I would even be satisfied if someone makes a strong case for team chemistry being compromised by all the key injuries.

Who can tell me what keeps you somewhat hopeful?
 
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