How much rebuilding are you willing to tolerate?

[Boaty1]

We have to give the new coach 4 years to get out of this mess. Our talent level is ridiculously low. So low that Johnson, who I believe is a great college coach, went 24-24 over the last 4 years.

 

[MikeJackets1967]

I will tolerate 4 seasons of rebuilding I think 2019 will be rough with possibly 2-3 wins being it for the season

 

[stech81]

3 years but with CKW 1 game or the Spring game only.

 

[MikeJackets1967]

3 year but with CKW 1 game or the Spring game only.

You're right,stech81,there will be no honeymoon period for Ken Whisenhunt

 

[Gtbowhunter90]

Tech has been rebuilding since 1956. What's a few more years?

Ouch

 

[BleedingGold]

If you hire a coach with the exact same style like Monken, you won't need to rebuild. Next year will probably be 6-8 wins. If you hire someone with a similar style like Elliot or Satterfield where transition will be different but not terrible difficult, possibly looking at a similar result. May miss a bowl game the first year. If you hire a guy who hasn't coached in college for the past 20+ years, has no history of recruiting, likes to throw the ball a lot and who has more of a "play not to lose" kind of mindset, you may not to leave the rebuilding phase........oh and the last guy was Whisenhunt. Must have been hard to decipher that one.

 

[BCJacket]

Maybe one year. Depends on what you mean by rebuild? You mean fall off and build back to 7 wins? I'll tolerate one bad season of transition, but after that, we should be at least as good as we were this past year. Rebuilding doesn't really happen in the modern college game. It's not like the pros were getting bad gets you better players in a draft.

We won 7 games this past year. We're not a 2 win team. If the new guy can't win at least 7 on average the next two seasons, we hired the wrong guy.

 

[MountainBuzzMan]

For me, probably not much. I was expecting some really good things next year with some real passing QB's available to run CPJ's offense. To turn a 9 or 10 win season (Or maybe even more) to a losing season would probably put me over the edge. Depending on the coaching hire, I may not wait for a losing season.

 

[YJMD]

We have no T.E's. I am pretty sure any offense will need them except the 3O. You have to give the new coach several years no matter who it is.

We have some big bodied receivers who have plenty of experience blocking. It's not the same as pass blocking and knowing assignments to pick up blitzes, but we aren't starting from zero there. I'm sure there's a guy or two elsewhere that might change positions. And we haven't signed our class yet. Selling the wide open opportunity to start from day one is an advantage, although we'd be starting from scratch recruiting the position for the most part. That said, I think modern spread offenses use the TE a lot differently than a pro style one, and I would not be too worried about this deficit if we go that route.

 

[OldJacketFan]

I've been thinking about what is asked in this thread and, frankly, my tolerance for "rebuilding" is very, very low. We'll have to beef up the tackles and put more emphasis on pass blocking but otherwise why would we expect to be "rebuilding" coming off a 7 or 8 win season? That's make no sense to me at all.

 

[Techster]

All I know is I don't ever want to hear another GT HC utter this phrase "We need to simplify". On offense or defense.

Lord, I'm surprised we still had a playbook after 11 years of "simplifying" on defense or offense every season...

 

[UgaBlows]

A little different angle from the other coaching threads.... Because GT has run the option for 11 years, and recruiting season is essentially over for 2019 season, if a coach is brought in with a pro-style system or spread passing system, it is possible that the team is terrible next year... As in, 2 wins terrible.

However... if you brought in Monken, Ken, Lunsford, Bohannan, Debesse, etc you would presumably keep going with a pretty good team next year. Probably win at least 8 games and compete for the division.

I guess the question is... how much rebuilding are you willing to tolerate as a fan? 1 season? 4 seasons? none?

Given the offensive personnel situation the new coach is walking into, i think we need to give the new coach 2-4 years to recruit and develop his own players. I want to see good coaching and sound, hard-nosed no-quit fb teams though, not a Wllie Taggert disaster.

 

[UgaBlows]

I've been thinking about what is asked in this thread and, frankly, my tolerance for "rebuilding" is very, very low. We'll have to beef up the tackles and put more emphasis on pass blocking but otherwise why would we expect to be "rebuilding" coming off a 7 or 8 win season? That's make no sense to me at all.

Thats what i’m hoping for, best case scenario we bring in a RPO specialist who can utilize our guys to the max and keep aspects of CPJ’s offense.

 

[5277hike]

We have to give the new coach 4 years to get out of this mess. Our talent level is ridiculously low. So low that Johnson, who I believe is a great college coach, went 24-24 over the last 4 years.

He also went 35-27 over the last 5 years, and 21-15 over the last 3. Neither of those would be described as a mess. You can cherry pick stats to make almost any point though.

 

[TheSilasSonRising]

If whiz - immediate. No grace oeriod.

 

[Boaty1]

He also went 35-27 over the last 5 years, and 21-15 over the last 3. Neither of those would be described as a mess. You can cherry pick stats to make almost any point though.

I get so confused by this argument. Who would argue the downturn of the program began in 14? It just doesn't make sense.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

On another blog I stated that I expect the same quick results that we got when CPJ took over. The caveat is that I am expecting a coach who is either comparable or superior. I don't have it in me to hang in there with a program that is going backwards.

 

[ibeattetris]

We proved we could win multiple games this year with primarily having TO run to the edge behind blockers. So at the worst case just line up TO in the wildcat and skate to 4-5 wins with no creativity. I see no reason to believe our new coach should not be bowl eligible with the team we are returning. One of everyone's complaints (probably valid) about CPJ was his unwillingness to adjust to our players after the failed Vad experiment. If our new coach comes in and immediately forces a pro set on us without a transition period, his butt will deserve the hotseat it will be on. The incoming coach should come in with a plan on how he will utilize our teams current strengths to win games and build support while recruiting to fit his long term goal. Any hire unwilling to be flexible in this regard should not be hired in my opinion.

 

[bravejason]

There are two major differences between 2008 and 2019. For starters Johnson inherited a tremendous DL that we really leaned on in 2008. Had Johnson inherited the same level of defense we had in 2018 he doesn't win 9 games. He probably wouldn't have won 7. Simply put, the next coach doesn't have the same level of inherited defense. Also, while Johnson was instilling a new offense he did inherit the right pieces for it. There is a good argument that he inherited the best RB, WR, and QB of his tenure. And IMO only really QB is debatable. Sheer talent carried that team on offense in year one at times. And that situation really isn't true now. We have a couple of good backs, but no notable WRs, and a QB who may or may not fit well. At the time people were willing to give Johnson time to get his system in place. It's only in retrospect that we know how good of a situation he inherited. It could be the same with a new coach, but we know for certain he won't inherit the same level of defense, and none of our recent classes has been best of the past 20 years good either.

If Gailey 2007 team had the 2018 defense, the he doesn't win 7 games either. The new coach, provided he doesn't change the scheme or staff, should have an improved version of the 2018 defense.
Regarding the offense, I guess I've more confidence than most people that the players can learn and play in a different offense. They are still going to struggle against Clemson and uga. Against everyone else, I expect the new coach to be able to put them in a position to win. If the new coach can't take players that fit the scheme imperfectly and adapt, is that really someone we want running the team? One other thing, the new coach will certainly have an opportunity to clean up special teams, which is a place where there is still a lot of room to make gains to compensate for losses on the transition to the new offense.

 

[TheSilasSonRising]

I at the very least expect the coach to have the team ready to play for 60 minutes, instead of this 2 quarters only per game.