Hey X's and O's guys

[JacketFromUGA]

the FTRS post today is up your alley.

https://www.fromtherumbleseat.com/2...2017-will-be-different-the-belly-of-the-beast

 

[Whiskey_Clear]

How many teams play smash mouth as well as we do. Our OL block nasty, our AB block nasty m, our BB block nasty...our WR actually make blocks (watch out for that....craaaack)

I love how hard nosed our team is. Lots of teams have hard nosed Ds...few have hard nosed Os....we do.

 

[Andewa]

So are the Belly Option and the Veer the same thing, just with the G and T switching blocking assignments?

 

[33jacket]

How many teams play smash mouth as well as we do. Our OL block nasty, our AB block nasty m, our BB block nasty...our WR actually make blocks (watch out for that....craaaack)

I love how hard nosed our team is. Lots of teams have hard nosed Ds...few have hard nosed Os....we do.

Yes. Our mindset on O is to attack the D. Like on D u attack the O. We come at you, we dont wait and zone and switch. Its like defense on offense. One reason why paul likes DL on the OL.

Bedford. Cooper. Lee. None were OL. i am sure there are more....

 

[AE 87]

So are the Belly Option and the Veer the same thing, just with the G and T switching blocking assignments?

No. For us, the Belly is a straight give to the B-gap. The Belly Option is a double option QB and A-back. The B-back is just a fake to block.

 

[ilovetheoption]

So are the Belly Option and the Veer the same thing, just with the G and T switching blocking assignments?

No. There is no mesh, which is maybe the single defining characteristic of the veer

 

[ilovetheoption]

The belly series by the way is what Parker Braun was born for. That kid is Hell on Wheels pulling to the outside

 

[JacketFromUGA]

Yes. Our mindset on O is to attack the D. Like on D u attack the O. We come at you, we dont wait and zone and switch. Its like defense on offense. One reason why paul likes DL on the OL.

Bedford. Cooper. Lee. None were OL. i am sure there are more....

Also why everyone says we're dirty. People aren't used to the offense punching you in the gut.

 

[augustabuzz]

Also why everyone says we're dirty. People aren't used to the offense punching you in the gut.

Yes, we present a very physical offense. It is the reason so many lose the week following our game if they go against a team with a pulse.

 

[AE 87]

Okay, here's our bread and butter plus the two main Belly plays:

That's the Veer, our basic triple option. Here's the Belly:

That's a straight give. Here's the Belly Option, a double option:

 

[Whiskey_Clear]

I can rarely tell what play exactly was run live...just recognize who pulled where and which defenders were put on their asses. I have to watch replays to see more intricacies. I'd sure hate to try and defend it on the field. Soon as you start making headway you get blindsided by a shift in play call.

 

[33jacket]

I can rarely tell what play exactly was run live...just recognize who pulled where and which defenders were put on their asses. I have to watch replays to see more intricacies. I'd sure hate to try and defend it on the field. Soon as you start making headway you get blindsided by a shift in play call.

On d your assignments dont change much. Dodging blockers does. And read keys do.

Thats why so many opposing coaches stress not peaking etc. its hard man. So hard. Your assignments vs our o are so different than vs ncaa typical o.

 

[Sideways]

The belly series by the way is what Parker Braun was born for. That kid is Hell on Wheels pulling to the outside

Yep. His speed and athleticism are unusually good for an interior lineman. I still maintain that if it were me. Big IF I know, but bear with me here. I would bring my best athlete usually a safety and shoot those gaps until Tech did something to stop it. I would be damned if I would let those A backs run wild on pitches as that will get your defense killed. I would make the quarterback beat me either running or passing. But that is just me. Of course, when you got players like Clemson and Miami its much easier to mix and match tactics. Other teams are usually left with some pretty bad choices.

 

[Sideways]

On d your assignments dont change much. Dodging blockers does. And read keys do.

Thats why so many opposing coaches stress not peaking etc. its hard man. So hard. Your assignments vs our o are so different than vs ncaa typical o.

It is a level of difficulty that is difficult for fans to grasp. Defending this offense makes defenders do things that run totally contrary to their instincts. So often, I will see a defense play us well for perhaps a quarter and then the self discipline starts to break down and defenders fall into their old habits of free lancing trying to make a big play and instead they give up the big play. As Coach Bowden once said: "Dadgum wishbone..."

 

[Fatmike91]

The Belly series has increasingly been an important part of our offense. We ran it a lot in the Orange Bowl, including (I think) Days' long run tip-toeing on the sideline.

I also suspect since there is no mesh, it's easier to execute early in the season for a new QB.

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[zhavenor]

I can rarely tell what play exactly was run live...just recognize who pulled where and which defenders were put on their asses. I have to watch replays to see more intricacies. I'd sure hate to try and defend it on the field. Soon as you start making headway you get blindsided by a shift in play call.

The belly series is easy to ID. Its the only one where our QB "spins" completely around at the snap. If you see the QB do that its going to be a dive or a "double" option to the outside. Of course we probably have a play action pass off that too.

 

[elwoodgt]

I would bring my best athlete usually a safety and shoot those gaps until Tech did something to stop it. I would be damned if I would let those A backs run wild on pitches as that will get your defense killed.

I've been wondering about that. Duke did that to us a couple of years ago with their awesome safety Cash. Awful game, sat in the rain all day... Anyway. He shot the gaps all dam day and blew us up. I think we finally tightened the line late and made some headway, but I couldn't tell what changes we made to counteract that defense. Any ideas? What do you run to beat a safety who's living in your backfield?

 

[UgaBlows]

This will sound dirty but if i was the coach and had one player destroying the Offense like Cash did i would design a play or blocking scheme to take his *** OUT, or at least take the fire out of him...

 

[ilovetheoption]

The belly series sort of functions like the old Nebraska option I in that the dive is called or not and it only requires the quarterback to make one read much later and much slower.

 

[wreckrod]

I've been wondering about that. Duke did that to us a couple of years ago with their awesome safety Cash. Awful game, sat in the rain all day... Anyway. He shot the gaps all dam day and blew us up. I think we finally tightened the line late and made some headway, but I couldn't tell what changes we made to counteract that defense. Any ideas? What do you run to beat a safety who's living in your backfield?

I'm sure there's a better answer but first thing I would try is play-action out of our base set with the BB assigned to block the blitzing safety. Have both A backs run go routes or like a go and a corner. Only read QB has to make is which AB the deep safety is taking. Unless they have insanely fast linebackers the ABs will blow right by them. Have the WR run a post or dig route crossing in front of the corner route AB. On the other side the AB and WR both run go's.

If anything it'd just be a check the QB could use at will. If safety is showing blitz and all up on the line then he's not going to make it back into coverage of either AB. I could be wrong, but seems like with a 5 step drop, 1 thousand 1, QB should be turning it loose cause someone is going to be open. You're putting 4 recievers into a secondary with only 3 defenders.