HC Candidate/Rumors/Info Thread

[lv20gt]

So, is that on Key or on Long and Weinke?

I mean, is anything ever on Key?

 

[Randy Carson]

Doubt it and never played a down of football. Gotta love guys like Cheetah

College Football Head Coaches Who Never Played

• Mike Leach, Washington State.
• George O'Leary, UCF.
• Sonny Dykes, Cal.
• Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech.
• Bobby Hauck, UNLV.
• Charlie Weis, Kansas.
• Dennis Franchione, Texas State.
• Bill Clark, UAB.
• Mike Lieach, Washington State.
• Hugh Freeze, Ole Miss.
• David Cutcliffe, Duke.

You can Google NFL coaches who never played in pro (or college).

 

[Tech93]

You know nothing about me, son. Just walk away

I’m thankfully not your son Cheetah. Had a father that you could never compare to so do not call me son again.

 

[Randy Carson]

I mean, is anything ever on Key?

Is everything bad always on Key?

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

Batt is from there… I can see it as true. BOB is the safe choice, Key is the cheap choice, Chadwell is the risk reward choice.

Pretty good summary, I guess. I don't know that much about him. He coached at Tech a while ago, he has coached in the NFL, and he is coaching at Alabama. He did a pretty good job wrecking Auburn. That is about it so I will let others more knowledgeable offer their opinions and insights. IIWII.

 

[RonJohn]

So, is that on Key or on Long and Weinke?

Or on how the practices were run through August and September?

 

[lv20gt]

Is everything bad always on Key?

Nope. There was plenty of blame for the bad on the entire staff.

Now answer my question please.

 

[forensicbuzz]

I mean, is anything ever on Key?

We're talking about getting the qb ready to play in 10 days. Who do you think was front and center to make that happen? I'm pretty sure Key was relying on his QB coach and OC to do their job.

 

[Randy Carson]

You’re an idiot, real tough behind a computer screen.

Son you need to stop

Seriously, people? Take a break.

 

[lv20gt]

We're talking about getting the qb ready to play in 10 days. Who do you think was front and center to make that happen? I'm pretty sure Key was relying on his QB coach and OC to do their job.

So was Collins not relying on his OL coach to get the OL ready to play for 4 years?

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

They are still angry about LSU and Tennessee.

I just came from my in laws annual civil war in Alabama. The Alabama fans were complaining about losing to Tennessee and LSU (but they seemed to blame the defense, FWIW) while the Auburn fans were muttering: "We should have such problems" Does Auburn have a similar scenario going on with Carnell "Cadillac" Williams as interim head coach? He is entertaining if nothing else. A poor man's Prime Time as it were.

 

[yeti92]

You’re an idiot, real tough behind a computer screen.

Son you need to stop

 

[cpf2001]

Seems like this whole back and forth could've been pre-empted if McWhorter's HC successes had just been linked to back up the claim he would've been better than Gailey, how strange!

 

[GTLorenzo]

Hope they pay him very well and we get an offset!

Are we sure there is an offset in the contract? Based on our last AD’s judgement, I would be suspicious if he put an offset in the contract since he was so high on his man.

 

[Randy Carson]

So was Collins not relying on his OL coach to get the OL ready to play for 4 years?

Did the OL coach have full control over who was given a scholarship? How practices were run? When the 1's worked against the 1's?

Yeah, I can see how the OL could be badly hamstrung by the HC.

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

College Football Head Coaches Who Never Played

• Mike Leach, Washington State.
• George O'Leary, UCF.
• Sonny Dykes, Cal.
• Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech.
• Bobby Hauck, UNLV.
• Charlie Weis, Kansas.
• Dennis Franchione, Texas State.
• Bill Clark, UAB.
• Mike Lieach, Washington State.
• Hugh Freeze, Ole Miss.
• David Cutcliffe, Duke.

You can Google NFL coaches who never played in pro (or college).

Its a good thing Charlie never played football, he would have had a heart attack sooner or later. When he was offensive coordinator one year at Florida he had a habit of sitting at the end of the bench and the quarterback would sit next to him. When he sat down, its a wonder the other side of the bench didn't go up in the air. He had one of those operations to lose weight but he just kept eating, didn't lose weight and sued the doctor after some complications set in.

 

[lv20gt]

Did the OL coach have full control over who was given a scholarship? How practices were run? When the 1's worked against the 1's?

Yeah, I can see how the OL could be badly hamstrung by the HC.

Yeah, like I said. Nothing ever lands on Key. Not even the position he is in charge of.

 

[cpf2001]

That's one of those things I think we just have to assume Batt is going to be investigating and asking about himself...

OR... we could try to math it! Anyone got a prob/stats textbook handy to figure out the probability of Batt asking Key and others about how much he was or wasn't hampered by Collins, and P(Batt Passing on Key | Key Having Good Answers ∩ Batt Is Not Idiot) based on various assumed priors for P(Batt Is Not Idiot) ... or possibly we should go down to the P(Cabrera Is Not Idiot)?

 

[Randy Carson]

Yeah, like I said. Nothing ever lands on Key. Not even the position he is in charge of.

That's an oversimplification.

Any conscientious position coach will do the best he can with what he has to work with. Any employee does. Any parent does.

But you must believe that Key is simply incompetent and unqualified to be OL coach. Why would you say that when both GOL and Saban felt otherwise?

I mean, I know you know this, but it's not like the dude's got no bona fides:

2001–2002	Georgia Tech (GA)
2004	Western Carolina (TE/RB)
2005	UCF (GA/OL)
2006–2007	UCF (TE/RC)
2008	UCF (ST/TE/RC)
2009–2011	UCF (OL/RC)
2012–2013	UCF (AHC/OL/RC)
2014–2015	UCF (AHC/OC/OL/RC)
2016–2018	Alabama (OL)
2019–2022	Georgia Tech (AHC/OL/RGC)
2022–present	Georgia Tech (interim HC)

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

Read the comments and then pray for a miracle…

They seem pretty glad to Coach O'Brian leaving. There are a bunch of them who want to get rid of the defensive coordinator as well. Bama's record this year is what? 10-2 losing only to LSU and Tennessee while handily beating in state rival. We should have such problems.