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DisregardBut you can compare Long to D Pateneude. And even Pat’s transition offense in 2019 without a real QB was better than Long’s offense this year.
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DisregardBut you can compare Long to D Pateneude. And even Pat’s transition offense in 2019 without a real QB was better than Long’s offense this year.
Huh? I never even mentioned BOB? I’ve been supportive of BOB throughout the process. What are you talking about? I was on your side hereI am not comparing Long to BOB. I am comparing your being hyper critical of one to your being overly forgiving to the other.
The suggestion that BOB sucks as a head coach because he failed as a GM in the NFL is one of the interesting takes I have heard. I would be interested to hear if you can name one hall of fame caliber college head coach who was a successful NFL GM.
The suggestion he sucks as a head coach because he delivered the #2 and #15 offenses (which is better than Kiffins first two years) is also bit perplexing, but it is not worth arguing.
Not you. Meant to reply to gt2019. Damn phone! Please disregard.Huh? I never even mentioned BOB? I’ve been supportive of BOB throughout the process. What are you talking about? I was on your side here
I am not comparing Long to BOB. I am comparing your being hyper critical of one to your being overly forgiving to the other.Context matters. BOB has a heisman winning QB who’s a top 3 pick, a top running back in Gibbs, a WR room filled with high 4 star and 5 star receivers, a offensive line filled with top recruits, reserves at each position that are former top recruits. I’m not comparing Long to BOB at all like you just did when you responded to me.
Being an NFL GM is having to manage a roster, a college HC is also having to manage a roster with taking commitments, the portal, sending out offers, dropping commits, etc. Theres a similarity there since both require managing a roster.I am not comparing Long to BOB. I am comparing your being hyper critical of one to your being overly forgiving to the other.
The suggestion that BOB sucks as a head coach because he failed as a GM in the NFL is one of the interesting takes I have heard. I would be interested to hear if you can name one hall of fame caliber college head coach who was a successful NFL GM. Heck, name one moderately successful college head coach who was a successful NFL GM.
The suggestion he sucks as a head coach because he delivered the #2 and #15 offenses (which is better than Kiffins first two years) is also bit perplexing, but it is not worth arguing.
Name one college football head coach who was a successful GM.Being an NFL GM is having to manage a roster, a college HC is also having to manage a roster with taking commitments, the portal, sending out offers, dropping commits, etc. Theres a similarity there since both require managing a roster.
Is there any college football head coach who has been a nfl gm before? BOB was only at Penn state for 2 years but yes he had success there. There’s a reason why he’s going to get fired at bama and a reason for him never being an option for tech that made it far in the process.Name one college football head coach who was a successful GM.
By the way BOB successfully managed a college football roster that lost 30 scholarship players in one year and ended up being the National Coach of the year. He has experience in the area of our need.
Exactly! Saban, Spurrier, and Meyer all failed as NFL head coaches. BOB did not. He failed as a NFL GM. You are holding him to a standard that no other coach in the history of college football has ever been held. How he managed the roster and team at PSU after the loss of ships and players is more relevant than any experience he had as an NFL GM.Is there any college football head coach who has been a nfl gm before? BOB was only at Penn state for 2 years but yes he had success there. There’s a reason why he’s going to get fired at bama and a reason for him never being an option for tech that made it far in the process.
The problem is, his group told tech/the search firm that he wants to call plays, he’s going to be fired from his job that has him calling plays.Exactly! Saban, Spurrier, and Meyer all failed as NFL head coaches. BOB did not. He failed as a NFL GM. You are holding him to a standard that no other coach in the history of college football has ever been held. How he managed the roster and team at PSU after the loss of ships and players is more relevant than any experience he had as an NFL GM.
Even if Bama fires him as OC, it still does not speak to his ability as a head coach.
Pitt and UNC were absolutely enjoyable. Duke and VPISU were moderately enjoyable as we won, but those games were maddeningly ugly. The other three games were putrid and no better than anything else in the last few seasons.I’m glad players are rallying behind key to salvage the season. But I bet a lot of these players liked Collins too. So I don’t put much stock on who they want. And like someone else said. It’s easier to replace a player than a good head coach.
And the last 7 games have been a lot more enjoyable than the last 3+ years but that’s a really low bar to hurdle. Like you would have to dig a hole to barely clear that bar.
I like key as HC a lot more than any of the other speculative HCs other than chadwell.
The problem is, his group told tech/the search firm that he wants to call plays, he’s going to be fired from his job that has him calling plays.
Ok, but that is very different than saying he clearly sucks as a college football head coach because he failed as an NFL GM and because Saban thinks he is too conservative.The problem is, his group told tech/the search firm that he wants to call plays, he’s going to be fired from his job that has him calling plays.
When did I say he clearly sucks as a college football head coach?Ok, but that is very different than saying he clearly sucks as a college football head coach because he failed as an NFL GM and because Saban thinks he is too conservative.
If you not saying he sucks here, what are you saying?I think it’s pretty obvious to realize how bad BOB is. Even the bama fan base that loves their cousins see how bad he is.
Does that post day he sucks as a college football head coach nope? It’s saying he’s horrible as a play caller aka offensive coordinatorIf you not saying he sucks here, what are you saying?
JBatt has moved on from him as a candidate. I've heard similar.If you not saying he sucks here, what are you saying?
It’s just an empirically false statement though.Does that post day he sucks as a college football head coach nope? It’s saying he’s horrible as a play caller aka offensive coordinator
My statement that was quoted is false?It’s just an empirically false statement though.