GT at uGA Post Game

[gtbb]

That loss the other night was the hardest loss I've ever felt, and I'm 57 years old. So, I've seen my share of tough losses. It left me in a daze. We had that game, and it just slipped away from us. We were the better team, and I think everyone who watched it or played in it knows that.

The good thing though....I think this is the beginning of a different era of Tech football. The bar will now be set higher. Key is a Tech Man through and through. And he is building a very tough program....not just team...but PROGRAM. We need to support this program with our $, and our attendance. This is finally the coach that wants to stay here and build something huge.

 

[GTpdm]

That loss the other night was the hardest loss I've ever felt, and I'm 57 years old. So, I've seen my share of tough losses. It left me in a daze. We had that game, and it just slipped away from us. We were the better team, and I think everyone who watched it or played in it knows that.

The good thing though....I think this is the beginning of a different era of Tech football. The bar will now be set higher. Key is a Tech Man through and through. And he is building a very tough program....not just team...but PROGRAM. We need to support this program with our $, and our attendance. This is finally the coach that wants to stay here and build something huge.

The way I’m trying to look at it goes like this: last Friday, they were the Apollo Creed to our Rocky Balboa. Yes, they got the win, but everyone—if they are honest with themselves—knows that we beat them.

 

[billga99]

I picked UGA by 7. I was gladfully wrong. The thing I didn't know is King being able to play the whole game. He is a real difference maker. Hanging onto coaches is crucial because I am convinced our head coach and both coordinators are top notch.

 

[alagold]

This reminds me of something CPJ once said. Although I can't remember the exact quote, he mentioned something like "when you win, you have to win convincingly so the refs have no way to give it back to UGA."

We obviously were up 17-0 at halftime, then let it all slip away in the 2nd half. Perhaps some of it was the refs. Perhaps some of it was injuries. Perhaps some of it was going to prevent defense too early (or at all). Perhaps some of it was not closing the deal and putting more points on the board in the first half. Regardless, while we played one helluva game, if we had done some things differently it wouldn't have been so close that we couldn't close it out.

Still positive that we'll play even better next year. This was not a one-off opportunity.

Its not like it hasn't happened before .We were up by 20 in '78 I believe and once before also.
Seeming little things add up-- like the missed FG (so it was 17 and not 20), the foolish Kick off return play that cost us 20 yds and the shift penalty on 54 at a critical time meant a lot.Not to mention all the injuries and the 'prevent" defense------ all added up to defeat..

 

[TechPhi97]

Quick look at Ugg's season in terms of yards allowed/gained:

Clemson 188/447
TN Tech 134/498
Kentucky 284/262
Alabama 547/519
Auburn 337/381
Miss St 385/605
Texas 259/283
Florida 256/455
Mississippi 395/245
Tennessee 313/452
Massachusetts 351/550
(Mean 314/427)

GT 563/405
Ugg's #1 worst game in yards allowed
Ugg's #5 worst game in yards gained

If you believe FEI is a good indicator, this was our 2nd best game of the year (after Miami).

 

[TechPhi97]

But see there is another part to this. Running a QB 20+ times is risky. He’s going to get banged up and tired and is at a higher risk of making a mistake. He did get speared, but I’m not so sure of that kids facemask is up the hit still doesn’t jar the ball loose. King was pretty beat up by that point. That said, it should have been a penalty upon review and we should have essentially won the game. I don’t understand why we didn’t ask the refs to look. Maybe we did.

He’s got the option on a lot of those plays - we run a lot of zone read.

 

[4shotB]

I picked UGA by 7. I was gladfully wrong. The thing I didn't know is King being able to play the whole game. He is a real difference maker. Hanging onto coaches is crucial because I am convinced our head coach and both coordinators are top notch.

all my gambling buddies who aren't real familiar with GT football texted me all week asking for input. I told them that if I knew for certain HK was healthy enough to throw down the field then taking GT to cover was a gimmee. However, if he wasn't then I didn't know what to tell them other than the spread looked about right. The feedback from them is that they think I am smart. My dog does too. Just haven't been able to convince my better half over all these years. Nor my kids.

 

[bobongo]

all my gambling buddies who aren't real familiar with GT football texted me all week asking for input. I told them that if I knew for certain HK was healthy enough to throw down the field then taking GT to cover was a gimmee. However, if he wasn't then I didn't know what to tell them other than the spread looked about right. The feedback from them is that they think I am smart. My dog does too. Just haven't been able to convince my better half over all these years. Nor my kids.

When I was a teenager, I was dumb enough to think I was smart. Now I've come full circle. I'm just barely smart enough to know I'm stupid.

 

[TromboneJacket]

Now that I’ve had a bit of time to process the loss, here are some of my thoughts:

A lot of people have compared this game to the Falcons Superbowl choke. As far as emotional impact, this game feels to me like the Seahawks-Patriots Superbowl. It hurts like hell, and there’s so many what-if moments that could have changed the outcome.

I really can’t take fault with the coaches or players in this game. They weren’t perfect, but they gave everything they had and made the best decisions they knew to make. That team in Athens has a lot more athleticism than we do, but our guys were well-coached and left everything out on the field. There are lessons that the players and coaches can learn from this game to be better in the future, but they deserve our utmost respect. Even decisions like the soft zone defense in the 2nd half had reasons driving them.

Ref calls going a little differently would have won us the game, but that’s outside the control of anyone affiliated with our fine Institute. So I’m going to throw that into the bucket that was the biggest deciding factor in the game: luck. Our guys did the best they could given their knowledge, experience, and skill. They played up near the maximum on things they could control. But they were unlucky. Regardless of your stance on targeting, that Haynes King fumble was a fluke play that even the vaunted georgie bulldogs wouldn’t be able to replicate if given 10 chances to do so. 9/10 times, even with the same play calls on both sides, that fumble doesn’t happen, and the clock runs out before georgie can mount a comeback.

We need to do whatever we can to keep this staff together at least another year. With another offseason of the superb coaching we’ve witnessed on both sides of the ball (and if we can have another successful portal class to fill in the attrition gaps on our roster), we will be a team to be feared. Clemson is about to be glad we gave them up as a yearly opponent. That school in Athens has much to worry about with that game being circled on our calendar for a year.

 

[Augusta_Jacket]

Clemson is about to be glad we gave them up as a yearly opponent.

I work with a Clemson booster. He told me this am that next year was a heck of a year to get GT back on the schedule, especially in ATL. We might not have walked away with a win in the win column of the stat sheet, but we put the ACC and the rest of the nation on notice that we will no longer be an easy out.

 

[Root4GT]

Well, that is certainly not true. I only had few gripes about the officiating. 1. The hit on King...and my gripe is that it was not reviewed for targeting. I don't know if it was or wasn't targeting (it is one of those nebulous things). Watching the play and how King fell backwards and down to the ground with hands to the side, I thought he had been knocked out. Again, I don't know if it would have been found to be targeting, but it should have been reviewed and an explanation provided for the conclusion. 2. The uncalled egregious and blatant takedown of Height on the pass play after the King fumble. Lineman grabs him by the collar and drags him to the ground in open space right in front of the Ref with no call resulting in a 15 completion instead of a 10 yard penalty. 3. Why was the potentially tipped ball not reviewed/called on the PI call that everyone is complaining about? I get you can't review the penalty call (ticky tacky as they appear), but you can certainly review a tipped ball. So in the last 5:30 of regulation time; one egregious penalty against UGA that was not called, and two plays that were controversial and should have been subject to some kind of video review.

However, these things did not change the fact that GT should have won the game anyway. Our first three drives all got inside the UGA 25 (maybe 30?), but yielded only three (3!) points. If we score 17 (or even 9) on those 1st three drives, do we win? I bet every one of us was muttering to ourselves right about then about how we can't win if we leave points on the field. Bottom line is we didn't make the plays we needed to make to win the game. If we had done our jobs better early in the game, it would not have mattered what the refs did later in the game. I salute the effort and fight, and am proud to be a yellow jacket.

According to CBK he was told the Targeting and Tipped ball were reviewed and determined the on field calls were correct.

The holding was obvious as all get out. Worst missed call of the game.

 

[Root4GT]

Now that I’ve had a bit of time to process the loss, here are some of my thoughts:

A lot of people have compared this game to the Falcons Superbowl choke. As far as emotional impact, this game feels to me like the Seahawks-Patriots Superbowl. It hurts like hell, and there’s so many what-if moments that could have changed the outcome.

I really can’t take fault with the coaches or players in this game. They weren’t perfect, but they gave everything they had and made the best decisions they knew to make. That team in Athens has a lot more athleticism than we do, but our guys were well-coached and left everything out on the field. There are lessons that the players and coaches can learn from this game to be better in the future, but they deserve our utmost respect. Even decisions like the soft zone defense in the 2nd half had reasons driving them.

Ref calls going a little differently would have won us the game, but that’s outside the control of anyone affiliated with our fine Institute. So I’m going to throw that into the bucket that was the biggest deciding factor in the game: luck. Our guys did the best they could given their knowledge, experience, and skill. They played up near the maximum on things they could control. But they were unlucky. Regardless of your stance on targeting, that Haynes King fumble was a fluke play that even the vaunted georgie bulldogs wouldn’t be able to replicate if given 10 chances to do so. 9/10 times, even with the same play calls on both sides, that fumble doesn’t happen, and the clock runs out before georgie can mount a comeback.

We need to do whatever we can to keep this staff together at least another year. With another offseason of the superb coaching we’ve witnessed on both sides of the ball (and if we can have another successful portal class to fill in the attrition gaps on our roster), we will be a team to be feared. Clemson is about to be glad we gave them up as a yearly opponent. That school in Athens has much to worry about with that game being circled on our calendar for a year.

Great post

 

[57jacket]

https://www.ajc.com/sports/georgia-tech/brent-key-says-he-didnt-sleep-after-loss-to-georgia-ill-never-forget-it/VPRGPKHIBVBMXDIBOD2EEDYNMM/

 

[CEB]

https://www.ajc.com/sports/georgia-tech/brent-key-says-he-didnt-sleep-after-loss-to-georgia-ill-never-forget-it/VPRGPKHIBVBMXDIBOD2EEDYNMM/

It was a good interview. An audio link was on here somewhere too. The below part is interesting to me when I heard it. I think this comment is just as telling as his response to the question of targeting on King. I think it’s obvious what he meant about shedding a little light on what it is and they (our guys) gotta understand.

“You don’t make progress without having failures along the way, even if they rip your heart out,” Key said. “But I think what it did, it showed, No. 1, it showed a little bit of the light of what it is. They gotta understand that. But it also showed everyone else what this program’s capable of doing and what we will continue to do. I think we gotta build on it, we gotta correct it the things we didn’t.”

 

[sgreer]

Now that I’ve had a bit of time to process the loss, here are some of my thoughts:

A lot of people have compared this game to the Falcons Superbowl choke. As far as emotional impact, this game feels to me like the Seahawks-Patriots Superbowl. It hurts like hell, and there’s so many what-if moments that could have changed the outcome.

I really can’t take fault with the coaches or players in this game. They weren’t perfect, but they gave everything they had and made the best decisions they knew to make. That team in Athens has a lot more athleticism than we do, but our guys were well-coached and left everything out on the field. There are lessons that the players and coaches can learn from this game to be better in the future, but they deserve our utmost respect. Even decisions like the soft zone defense in the 2nd half had reasons driving them.

Ref calls going a little differently would have won us the game, but that’s outside the control of anyone affiliated with our fine Institute. So I’m going to throw that into the bucket that was the biggest deciding factor in the game: luck. Our guys did the best they could given their knowledge, experience, and skill. They played up near the maximum on things they could control. But they were unlucky. Regardless of your stance on targeting, that Haynes King fumble was a fluke play that even the vaunted georgie bulldogs wouldn’t be able to replicate if given 10 chances to do so. 9/10 times, even with the same play calls on both sides, that fumble doesn’t happen, and the clock runs out before georgie can mount a comeback.

We need to do whatever we can to keep this staff together at least another year. With another offseason of the superb coaching we’ve witnessed on both sides of the ball (and if we can have another successful portal class to fill in the attrition gaps on our roster), we will be a team to be feared. Clemson is about to be glad we gave them up as a yearly opponent. That school in Athens has much to worry about with that game being circled on our calendar for a year.

Georgia was very lucky that Tech barely missed the field goal and the muffed punt they had did not land in the arms of a Jacket. So many things worked out for them to win.

 

[stinger78]

Georgia was very lucky that Tech barely missed the field goal and the muffed punt they had did not land in the arms of a Jacket. So many things worked out for them to win.

It always does, oddly enough.