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per Ramblinwreck.com,

the average weight of all players listed as OL in 2019 is 304 lbs. If you also include the 4 long snappers as well, the average is 290 lbs.

the average weight of all players listed as OL in 2018 is 298 lbs. Adding in the 4 LS, it's 286.
 
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yeti92 said:
per Ramblinwreck.com,

the average weight of all players listed as OL in 2019 is 304 lbs. If you also include the 4 long snappers as well, the average is 290 lbs.

the average weight of all players listed as OL in 2018 is 298 lbs. Adding in the 4 LS, it's 286.
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And just like scout did for Calvin rating, RW.com weight was retroactively updated. Go to the actual in season info


What is being included that is on depth chart is the none travel guys like a Harrison Jump and so on
 
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[QUOTE="Oth, a development program for a bunch of mid to high 3* players is well within our wheelhouse. Throw in the occasional 2 - 3 4* players and you're getting somewhere. But it won't be fast.
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If we can get here and have the occasional pop year bringing in a few more 4* while staying true to the recruiting style Key described in his presser, we’ll be onto something. I think that’s a huge IF though. Agreed it won’t be fast.
 
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I think Key and staff will bring a more earnest evaluation of talent based on specific need and based on their own abilities to evaluate rather than simply fishing for star ratings.

It seems potential for development is also getting factored in more now. “Diamonds in the rough” take a desire to find and skill to find them.

I have no idea how someone thought the factory approach would work at GT.
 
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dressedcheeseside said:
I think Key and staff will bring a more earnest evaluation of talent based on specific need and based on their own abilities to evaluate rather than simply fishing for star ratings.

It seems potential for development is also getting factored in more now. “Diamonds in the rough” take a desire to find and skill to find them.

I have no idea how someone thought the factory approach would work at GT.
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Key needs to hire Gailey as a talent consultant. Probably the most impressive evaluator of talent, and development of talent, of any coach on the Flats since I've been a GT fan. Seriously, look at how bad his recruiting classes were ranked compared to the number of guys he put in the NFL.
 
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bos said:
Lucas Patelles LS 5'8' 211 to 190 lost -21
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bos said:
Josh Tukes DL 6'6' 225 to 215 lost -10
Melvin Davis AB 6'1' 207 to 200 lost -7
Alan Bussoletti WR 6'4' 204 to 200 lost -4
Cheyenne Hunt OL 6'1' 250 to 250 0
Devin Smith DB 5'10' 165 to 165 0
Bailey Ivemeyer OL 6'1' 270 to 270 0
Jack Coco OL 6'3' 270 to 270 0
Joseph Macrina LB 6'1' 236 to 236 0
Jerrod Abee LS 6'1' 195 to 195 0
Josh Blancato AB 5'10' 175 to 175 0
Mark Rew AB 6'1' 186 to 186 0
Djimon Brooks DL 6'1' 276 to 280 gained 4
Chet Lagod OL 6'1' 270 to 275 gained 5
Josh White DL 6'4' 240 to 250 gained 10
Shawn Davis PK 6'2' 205 to 215 gained 10
Hamp Gibbs OL 6'3' 260 to 280 gained 20
William Lay OL 6'2' 260 to 283 gained 23
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bos said:
I noticed the GT site updated player weight for the new season. If anyone is curious I kept track of the gains.

I've excluded walk-ons and anyone with 3 lbs or less difference.

Gentry Bonds DB 6'2' 210 to 190 . Lost 20 lbs
Connor Hansen OL 6'2' 325 to 310 . Lost 15 lbs
Tijai Whatley AB 6'2' 195 to 182 . Lost 13 lbs
Dontae Smith AB 5'11' 185 to 175 . Lost 10 lbs
Jordan Domineck LB 6'3' 230 to 220 . Lost 10 lbs
Jaytlin Askew DB 5'11' 187 to 177 . Lost 10 lbs
Christian Malloy AB'BB 5'10' 200 to 194 . Lost 6 lbs
Charlie Clark OL 6'4' 286 to 280 . Lost 6 lbs
Juanyeh Thomas DB 6'3' 205 to 200 . Lost 5 lbs
Jaylon King DB 6'1' 180 to 175 . Lost 5 lbs
Stephen Dolphus WR 6'5' 210 to 205 . Lost 5 lbs
Lamont Simmons DB 6'2' 202 to 197 . Lost 5 lbs
Antwan Owens DL 6'4' 270 to 265 . Lost 5 lbs
Brandon Adams DL 6'2' 329 to 325 . Lost 4 lbs


Jalen Camp WR 6'2' 213 to 217 . Gained 4 lbs
Will Bryan OL 6'4' 281 to 285 . Gained 4 lbs
Justice Dingle LB 6'3' 245 to 250 . Gained 5 lbs
James Graham QB 6'1' 180 to 185 . Gained 5 lbs
Peje' Harris WR 6'3' 210 to 215 . Gained 5 lbs
Pressley Harvin III P 6'1' 240 to 245 . Gained 5 lbs
Jordan Ponchez-Mason AB'BB 6'1' 205 to 212 . Gained 7 lbs
Kaleb Oliver DB 6'4' 198 to 205 . Gained 7 lbs
Tobias Oliver QB 6'2' 175 to 182 . Gained 7 lbs
Tyler Cooksey LB 6'2' 224 to 232 . Gained 8 lbs
Zakk Mckeehan OL 6'4' 285 to 294 . Gained 9 lbs
Dameon Williams DB 5'10' 175 to 184 . Gained 9 lbs
Jahaziel Lee OL 6'2' 277 to 287 . Gained 10 lbs
Tre Swilling DB 6'1' 185 to 195 . Gained 10 lbs
Zach Quinney OL 6'6' 265 to 276 . Gained 11 lbs
Boe Tufele OL 6'3' 290 to 315 . Gained 25 lbs
Bruce Jordan-Swilling LB 6'1' 209 to 234 . Gained 25 lbs
Tariq Carpenter DB 6'2' 188 to 218 . Gained 30 lbs
Kelton Dawson DL 6'3' 242 to 275 . Gained 33 lbs
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Here is the rest of the list.

KirVonte Benson BB 5'9' 211 to 208 lost 3
Nathan Cottrell AB 5'11' 193 to 190 lost 3
Brant Mitchell LB 6'2' 236 to 233 lost 3
Kenny Cooper OL 6'3' 307 to 305 lost 2
Jair Hawkins-Anderson WR 6'1' 186 to 184 lost 2
Chris Martin DL 6'1' 289 to 287 lost 2
Anree Saint-Amour DL 6'3' 247 to 245 lost 2
Brad Stewart WR 6'1' 197 to 195 lost 2
Jalen Johnson DB 6'3' 216 to 215 lost 1
Quon Griffin DL 6'1' 275 to 275 0
Charlie Thomas DB 6'2' 190 to 190 0
Malachi Carter WR 6'3' 185 to 185 0
T.K. Chimedza DL 6'3' 300 to 300 0
Austin Smith DL 6'4' 295 to 295 0
Michael Maye OL 6'3' 295 to 295 0
Zamari Walton DB 6'3' 175 to 175 0
Harrison Jump OL 6'5' 260 to 260 0
Jaylen Jackson ATH 6'1' 195 to 195 0
Quez Jackson LB 6'1' 220 to 220 0
Luke Johns DL 6'5' 250 to 250 0
Parker Braun OL 6'3' 280 to 280 0
Mikey Minihan OL 6'3' 275 to 275 0
Brad Morgan OL 6'4' 288 to 288 0
Scott Morgan OL 6'4' 290 to 290 0
Adonicas Sanders WR 6'1' 185 to 185 0
David Curry LB 6'2' 217 to 217 0
Omahri Jarrett AB 5'10' 174 to 174 0
Lucas Johnson QB 6'3' 210 to 210 0
Antonio Mallard LB 6'1' 235 to 235 0
Tre' Jackson LB 5'10' 222 to 222 0
Desmond Branch DL 6'3' 270 to 270 0
Tyler Merriweather DL 6'3' 238 to 238 0
Qua Searcy AB 5'11' 174 to 174 0
Jerry Howard BB 6'1' 215 to 215 0
Kyle Cerge-Henderson DL 6'1' 298 to 298 0
TaQuon Marshall QB 5'10' 185 to 185 0
Avery Showell ATH 6'1' 192 to 193 gained 1
Brentavious Glanton DL 6'3' 293 to 294 gained 1
Ajani Kerr DB 6'1' 189 to 190 gained 1
Clinton Lynch AB 6'1' 190 to 192 gained 2
Jakob Brashear LB 6'1' 221 to 223 gained 2
Victor Alexander LB 5'10' 235 to 237 gained 2
Christian Campbell DB 6'2' 205 to 208 gained 3
Jarett Cole DB 5'10' 192 to 195 gained 3
Xavier Gantt AB 5'8' 167 to 170 gained 3
Jaquan Henderson LB 6'1' 197 to 200 gained 3
Brenton King PK 6'1' 167 to 170 gained 3
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Take out Brad Morgan, Boe, Mckeehan, Braun, & Bryan and tell me what y’all get bc they were not inherited
 
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GCdaJuiceMan said:
[QUOTE="Oth, a development program for a bunch of mid to high 3* players is well within our wheelhouse. Throw in the occasional 2 - 3 4* players and you're getting somewhere. But it won't be fast.
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If we can get here and have the occasional pop year bringing in a few more 4* while staying true to the recruiting style Key described in his presser, we’ll be onto something. I think that’s a huge IF though. Agreed it won’t be fast.
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Key was just on a dysfunctional regime that acquired no less than four 4* in each of its full recruiting cycles. No need to set the bar low. He already has a 4* QB committed
 

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Ibeeballin said:
If we can get here and have the occasional pop year bringing in a few more 4* while staying true to the recruiting style Key described in his presser, we’ll be onto something. I think that’s a huge IF though. Agreed it won’t be fast.
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Key was just on a dysfunctional regime that acquired no less than four 4* in each of its full recruiting cycles. No need to set the bar low. He already has a 4* QB committed
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Are we using the ibeeballin math from earlier in the thread or traditional basic math?
 
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Eli said:
Key was just on a dysfunctional regime that acquired no less than four 4* in each of its full recruiting cycles. No need to set the bar low. He already has a 4* QB committed
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You mean my correct math. Go look for yourself. Thank God for archived post

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After seeing what Key could do after inheriting a totally dysfunctional football program I believe the following things to be true if Key had followed Johnson:

1. The transition would have been seamless and efficient.

2. Key would have had us in a bowl game within two years (or less).

3. We never would have gone down the road of blaming CPJ for the state of the program.
 

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You mean my correct math. Go look for yourself. Thank God for archived post

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You literally posted the two deep and said “avg is 272” you said nothing about “recruiting weight” in that post
 
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Eli said:
You literally posted the two deep and said “avg is 272” you said nothing about “recruiting weight” in that post
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You literally do not know how to read. Let me say it slow like CPJ. The post before said that those guys were all over 300lbs and recruiting wait based on RW.com and that was not true. They also posted about the 260lbs misery again. Though CGC was stretched the truth it wasn’t far off and i posted the pre weight gains from Summer 2018.
 

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Ibeeballin said:
You literally do not know how to read. Let me say it slow like CPJ. The post before said that those guys were all over 300lbs and recruiting wait based on RW.com and that was not true. They also posted about the 260lbs misery again. Though CGC was stretched the truth it wasn’t far off and i posted the pre weight gains from Summer 2018.
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You posted the bowl game. Your hate towards PJ is undeniably and your posting and love towards collins is pathetic. Up until he was fired you were still on the Collins train. Your guy is fired give up he was the worst coach in Tech history
 

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Eli said:
You posted the bowl game. Your hate towards PJ is undeniably and your posting and love towards collins is pathetic. Up until he was fired you were still on the Collins train. Your guy is fired give up he was the worst coach in Tech history
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You’re delusional man
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According to ramblinwreckcom, the weights for the 2018 OL guys are listed below:

Jahaziel Lee 6'2" 308
Parker Braun 6'3" 280
Kenny Cooper 6'3" 325
Conner Hansen 6'2" 314
Zach Quinney 6'6" 315

Maybe those guys trimmed down to 260 just for the CGC weigh-in, but I don't understand the argument. Of course, Braun left to play at Texas (I guess they like 260 OL guys).

The freshman OL guys on that 2018 team, except for the walk-ons, all weighed 300 or better. So Johnson was not recruiting 260 pound guys. That whole notion is BS.

If you want to say those guys were all recruited to be run blockers and lacked the skill set for a pro-style offense, then I can somewhat agree. But GT was throwing the ball in the TO with more success than in the CGC offense.

Don't come back at me with the anti-Johnson posts. I believe he left GT when he was ready for the very reasons he stated. I loved watching the TO when it was successful, but agreed we needed to move away from that offense.
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Good lord @Eli. Do you get it now!! Go eat a snickers, man
 
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Northeast Stinger said:
After seeing what Key could do after inheriting a totally dysfunctional football program I believe the following things to be true if Key had followed Johnson:

1. The transition would have been seamless and efficient.

2. Key would have had us in a bowl game within two years (or less).

3. We never would have gone down the road of blaming CPJ for the state of the program.
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But what would we do with all the unused bandwidth?
Think of the filler those extraneous, wasted posts have provided and the hours of petulant folderol happily spent pouring over pointless minutiae.
 
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