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I am curious about the details of the Collins contract. Is there a copy available? I read that it is a 7 year deal. However, I haven't seen details of the amount of money given.
At least TStan is giving Coach Collins a long time to fix thingsI am curious about the details of the Collins contract. Is there a copy available? I read that it is a 7 year deal. However, I haven't seen details of the amount of money given.
Your saying GT is in bad shape. Your in trouble nowAt least TStan is giving Coach Collins a long time to fix things
I’m sure there’s all sorts of contract language in there. If nothing else, GT should have mastered coaching contracts by now. We’ve screwed the pooch every way imaginable.I am curious about the details of the Collins contract. Is there a copy available? I read that it is a 7 year deal. However, I haven't seen details of the amount of money given.
GT Athletics has zero credibility with coaching contracts. Hopefully TStan can turn that around. And CPJ needs to be thanked for giving us a break.I’m sure there’s all sorts of contract language in there. If nothing else, GT should have mastered coaching contracts by now. We’ve screwed the pooch every way imaginable.
I hope CGC got a good deal. Nothing speaks commitment like handing over $$.
I'm really hoping for an incentive heavy contract.
Also if instead of a 5 yr/15 MM contract we offered a 7yr/16 MM to lower our annual cost so that we can hire more/better assistants that's fine. If it was going to be 5/15 and is instead 7/21 I think that would be a very silly thing to do.
CPJ made just over $3M this past season excluding incentives. You'd want to pay your new coach less than that?
See this link from USA Today for Coaches Compensation:
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/
The better barometer is his contract was worth $2 million a year. That gives you a starting point.His last contract with Temple was worth $10 million so I anticipate that it's north of that number and likely more than double so >$20 million. I really hope TS left enough room in the overall Football staffing budget for Collins to be able to pursue qualified and top tier candidates for OC & DC Coordinator positions. Perhaps they structured Collins deal in such a way that the base is comfortable but that there are healthy financial incentives to reach benchmarks in recruiting, academics, and W's on the field so it encompasses the totality of what they're selling to the GT student athletes.
Why in the world wouldn't you? What the previous salary was, in any business, is not relevant.CPJ made just over $3M this past season excluding incentives. You'd want to pay your new coach less than that?
See this link from USA Today for Coaches Compensation:
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/
Why in the world wouldn't you? What the previous salary was, in any business, is not relevant.
I do all that in my business, but to replace a Johnson with a Collins at the same or higher salary? As was said about Obama in his first run for president, a man of no accomplishments? And if he won't take it, well, one does what one always does: keeps looking because if GT really is that good a job, there is somebody there. To overpay suggests the job ain't all that grand. And you know what the great thing about sports is? There is a scoreboard, and somebody wins at the end. It is not subjective at all. So pay the winners, but first make them win.I guess we have a different theory about compensation. I look at what the market rate (among several factors) along with my budget to determine an equitable compensation package. We talk about wanting to consistently win our division and compete for the ACC championship yet 'suggest' we structure a package with base 50% less than the previous coach made. I doubt you find anyone willing to take a package like that, even if it is their 'dream job'.
This isn't a sales job, where most of your salary is based on commissions. There are many variables a College Football Head Coach may not have control over.
I do all that in my business, but to replace a Johnson with a Collins at the same or higher salary? As was said about Obama in his first run for president, a man of no accomplishments? And if he won't take it, well, one does what one always does: keeps looking because if GT really is that good a job, there is somebody there. To overpay suggests the job ain't all that grand. And you know what the great thing about sports is? There is a scoreboard, and somebody wins at the end. It is not subjective at all. So pay the winners, but first make them win.
Every coach has incentives tied into their contract. I am guessing he is saying to just make those incentives higher and base pay lower.I believe the compensation package one offers indicates an organization's commitment towards moving forward. Looking at the salaries in the link, where would @HurricaneJacket's suggested base salary rank? This is public information and that can be used against you also.
When I hear others talk about incentive based compensation packages for non sales people, I would if they've actually seen this in practice and musing how they would like to structure that. I'm in sales and would have a hard time imagining how you would structure that type of compensation package for those with operational roles.
Every coach has incentives tied into their contract. I am guessing he is saying to just make those incentives higher and base pay lower.