And a 2100 prime time start game for ABC... that's 9:00 PM for you non-mil types.... so the whole city of Atlanta had all day & half the night to get well prepped, insulated, and intoxicated for a mid-November, temps in the low 30s/high 20s, night game.The Nov 1969 ND game was at night.
ND -- had just beaten us 60+ to 7 or something like that the year before with Ara Parsegian as their HC... GT students weren't having it -- so when they came to ATL the next year the students were ready as they had many frozen mackerals, flounder etc. on ice ready to pelt the Catholics - who liked fish on Fridays... IIRC - that was the logic. I was at that game - the whole ND team & coach Parsegian were huddled in the center of Grant Field getting pelted with fish and bottles -- not a pretty sight but quite humorous - in that GT students did not appreciate their lack of sportsmanship and running up the score the year before. Bad publicity ensued on cover of AJC and cover of SI (IIRC) shortly thereafter. I really didn't care as I recalled their intentional running up the score the year prior. Funny GT memory to me.I'm sorry WHAT? I need context.
Was off-sides.Rudy
This makes sense, as that’s when my oldest brother was at GT in his SO year.Tommy, the fish toss actually dates to the '67 game when St. Ara played his starters the whole game in a 3-36 loss for the good guys.... he was trying to do the same in that '69 game leading 0-30 right before the half, Theisman throwing the ball trying to score until Jeff Ford made his big INT in the 20-38 loss.
BTW, Dudish's disappearing act happened on the Monday before the '69 Notre Dame game.... when he didn't make it back to our bus in the French Quarter Saturday night after the 7-14 loss to Tulane.
Dirtiest players in our era? Notre Dame, hands down. All the cliches about what happens in a pile......
Foulest mouthed fans? Notre Dame fans in South Bend
Foulest mouthed ushers? Notre Dame ushers in South Bend
As for the epithets, you should've heard what OUR Catholic players were calling the Domers! Sheeesh!
Interesting and in great contrast to going to a few ND games in South Bend 2007-2010, a couple non GT games. The ND ushers were beyond courteous and the ND fans tailgating were extremely welcoming to pretty much anyone going to the game. The ND fans in an Irish Pub after we beat the snot out of them in 2007 were respectful and friendly.Tommy, the fish toss actually dates to the '67 game when St. Ara played his starters the whole game in a 3-36 loss for the good guys.... he was trying to do the same in that '69 game leading 0-30 right before the half, Theisman throwing the ball trying to score until Jeff Ford made his big INT in the 20-38 loss.
BTW, Dudish's disappearing act happened on the Monday before the '69 Notre Dame game.... when he didn't make it back to our bus in the French Quarter Saturday night after the 7-14 loss to Tulane.
Dirtiest players in our era? Notre Dame, hands down. All the cliches about what happens in a pile......
Foulest mouthed fans? Notre Dame fans in South Bend
Foulest mouthed ushers? Notre Dame ushers in South Bend
As for the epithets, you should've heard what OUR Catholic players were calling the Domers! Sheeesh!
I remember being in the flash card section that game. The fish were hilarious - the liquor bottles (empty) not so much. As noted, the students were really ticked about the previous year and drunker than normal.ND -- had just beaten us 60+ to 7 or something like that the year before with Ara Parsegian as their HC... GT students weren't having it -- so when they came to ATL the next year the students were ready as they had many frozen mackerals, flounder etc. on ice ready to pelt the Catholics - who liked fish on Fridays... IIRC - that was the logic. I was at that game - the whole ND team & coach Parsegian were huddled in the center of Grant Field getting pelted with fish and bottles -- not a pretty sight but quite humorous - in that GT students did not appreciate their lack of sportsmanship and running up the score the year before. Bad publicity ensued on cover of AJC and cover of SI (IIRC) shortly thereafter. I really didn't care as I recalled their intentional running up the score the year prior. Funny GT memory to me.
They ran it up for national ranking. Still had first string defense in at the end of the game as I recollect. I guess 60 wasn't enough.ND -- had just beaten us 60+ to 7 or something like that the year before with Ara Parsegian as their HC... GT students weren't having it -- so when they came to ATL the next year the students were ready as they had many frozen mackerals, flounder etc. on ice ready to pelt the Catholics - who liked fish on Fridays... IIRC - that was the logic. I was at that game - the whole ND team & coach Parsegian were huddled in the center of Grant Field getting pelted with fish and bottles -- not a pretty sight but quite humorous - in that GT students did not appreciate their lack of sportsmanship and running up the score the year before. Bad publicity ensued on cover of AJC and cover of SI (IIRC) shortly thereafter. I really didn't care as I recalled their intentional running up the score the year prior. Funny GT memory to me.
ND beat us 69-14 in 1977 under HC Dan Devine. That was the infamous “finger” game.ND -- had just beaten us 60+ to 7 or something like that the year before with Ara Parsegian as their HC... GT students weren't having it -- so when they came to ATL the next year the students were ready as they had many frozen mackerals, flounder etc. on ice ready to pelt the Catholics - who liked fish on Fridays... IIRC - that was the logic. I was at that game - the whole ND team & coach Parsegian were huddled in the center of Grant Field getting pelted with fish and bottles -- not a pretty sight but quite humorous - in that GT students did not appreciate their lack of sportsmanship and running up the score the year before. Bad publicity ensued on cover of AJC and cover of SI (IIRC) shortly thereafter. I really didn't care as I recalled their intentional running up the score the year prior. Funny GT memory to me.
Had a lot to do with their stands coming all the way down to field level & our refusal to take a knee so the locals could see. It was 20F with 20+ MPH winds that November day, so we were standing, stomping our feet, doing anything to stay warm. Their fans didn't like it & expressed their displeasure in the vernacular northerners/midwesterners often do.... spiced up with a lot of "'effin' this & that." The ushers, responding to their locals, did the same.Interesting and in great contrast to going to a few ND games in South Bend 2007-2010, a couple non GT games. The ND ushers were beyond courteous and the ND fans tailgating were extremely welcoming to pretty much anyone going to the game. The ND fans in an Irish Pub after we beat the snot out of them in 2007 were respectful and friendly.
BDS looks very good all dressed in gold!the crowd for that game was electric and I wish I was old enough to have gone but I was like 3 months old at the time.
I mean just look... 56,800 jammed into the place.
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ND fans at least in MY lifetime are amazing. Just very classy and respectful. Although I've heard things were very different back in the 60's and 70's.Interesting and in great contrast to going to a few ND games in South Bend 2007-2010, a couple non GT games. The ND ushers were beyond courteous and the ND fans tailgating were extremely welcoming to pretty much anyone going to the game. The ND fans in an Irish Pub after we beat the snot out of them in 2007 were respectful and friendly.
actually, watch actual game film and you will see that he was not offsides. Pat whiffed him.Was off-sides.
I wasn't being koi or trying to be hoki, just ended up with a whiff. It was my sole attempt at a crappie joke and I manta do betta.I'm sorry WHAT? I need context.
No but like I’m young and never knew about the fish toss.I wasn't being koi or trying to be hoki, just ended up with a whiff. It was my sole attempt at a crappie joke and I manta do betta.
from my perch, it seems you are beginning to flounder.I wasn't being koi or trying to be hoki, just ended up with a whiff. It was my sole attempt at a crappie joke and I manta do betta.
I tried to tuna you guys out but you reeled me back in. Good fun, just for the halibut.from my perch, it seems you are beginning to flounder.
from my perch, it seems you are beginning to flounder.
You guys took the baitI tried to tuna you guys out but you reeled me back in. Good fun, just for the halibut.
You guys took the bait