Coronavirus Thread

[Deleted member 2897]

That is because you are not following numbers of spread of the virus. You are following numbers of availability of tests.

And yet I said a week ago when we had 100 positives we’d bet at 2,000 by this weekend...partially because of the ramp up in testing. So yea.

 

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[Buzzbomb]

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[CuseJacket]

Where's @Techster?

 

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[slugboy]

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[Deleted member 2897]

Well, they’re all being health screened, but yea, best laid plans. This is why travel is being shut down. This is what airports are usually like to some degree.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

1200 cases in the US Thursday. 3000 today. If they keep ramping up testing, we could be at 15000 next weekend.

I don’t know if it’s true, but my showed me a FB if one of her close friends that said her kid was sick, negative for the flu, respiratory issues. SC DHEC won’t test for COVID-19 because no international travel and no reason to have been exposed to someone who traveled internationally. I guess that way they can meet the demand for test requests that they can deliver. So that’s it. AND, they didn’t direct the Mom to quarantine him. We are dumb.

 

[Lotta Booze]

A good visualization of how social distancing can affect "flattening the curve" of the spread of the disease

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

 

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[dtm1997]

 

[LibertyTurns]

Yes, the places that are likely to implode are NYC, Chicago, LA, SF, Baltimore & Philly, Atlanta, DC, etc. They all have many things in common but one feature is overwhelmingly the most important. In fact if you look at the worldwide trends, the most heavily impacted places all have that singular common trait.

 

[Skeptic]

Just a friendly reminder that influenza deaths EVERY YEAR far exceed Coronavirus deaths....

OK, OK. "Equivalency" now falsely applies to life and death health decisions. One has nothing to do with the other. I read some local doctors brush it off, but when NHS and CDC specialists issue stark warnings, it is time to listen. It is their profession, and unlike a certain someone I trust specialists. If you are very young you probably have little worry. Young adults, not much. It gets worse as you get older. If you have no concern for older people who may have underlying health conditions -- heart, lung, for instance -- then at least try not to spread it to them. For some denial is the worst medicine.

 

[RonJohn]

A good visualization of how social distancing can affect "flattening the curve" of the spread of the disease

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

I do like the simulations and how it shows effects of mass quarantine and social distancing. Just keep in mind, as it is stated in the article, that it isn't modelling this virus. It is modelling a virus that is 100% contagious with contact and in which nobody dies. The infection rate with either no action or with mass quarantine using that model is 100%. I don't think I have heard anyone predict 100% even with no action being taken.

 

[LibertyTurns]

The answer is one word: Thalidomide.

Mods if someone has a better place for this response, feel free to move it.

Thalidomide is a great example, but here’s my cut:

1. Government has a Constitutional authority to establish justice.....promote the General Welfare and secure the blessings of Liberty.

2. We have a system where the following is supposed to happen: Congress passes laws with their authority provided by the Constitution, companies abide by them, lawbreaking is punished civilly or criminally, etc.

* Thalidomide was developed by a private company.
* That company had a responsibility to test appropriately to make sure it was effective & not harmful.
* Instances where companies do not produce good products, have unintended consequences, etc should get punished by mechanisms already in place without having extraordinary regulations & massive government bureaucracies.
- Severe instances they lose customers & go out of business- sued & assets seizes and given to those harmed
- Perhaps their conduct was criminal- Execs in charge get prosecuted & jailed

What happens is businesses, because of political shenanigans perpetuated by a corrupt system get off with little to no accountability.

What if the Execs at the company that made Thalidomide were jailed for life & all their personal assets were seized/company bankrupted as damages? Wouldn’t companies behave differently? Why does government have to create a myriad of rules to prevent companies for doing stuff like this? A bunch of disgraced, jailed & penniless Execs whose families are ruined should be enough to promote proper behavior.

Smaller government would drastically reduce politically motivated decisions & generate a much higher of marketplace derived decisions. Who was pressuring the FDA in the case of Thalidomide? I’ll tell you: a person(s) with huge power & little accountability. Who are they bribing, politicians? If the politicians had greatly reduced authority to intervene, the hugely powerful businessman would have no one to bribe to attain a favorable decision. He’d be left to making a decision & suffering the consequences.

You’re advocating a system with increased propensity for graft & corruption, I’m on the other side of the spectrum. You want more politicians, being bribed by more companies in more instances due to more expansive regulations the politicians are voting on, etc. Makes no sense to me that any rational individual would want that type of system or more of it. Think how insane that is- the east qualified person on the face of the earth to make a decision is a politician & you want more of them making more decisions. The second least qualified person to make a decision is a career government bureaucrat. You want more of them making more bad decisions. Crazy.

 

[slugboy]

And in Italy



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[dtm1997]

Yes, the places that are likely to implode are NYC, Chicago, LA, SF, Baltimore & Philly, Atlanta, DC, etc. They all have many things in common but one feature is overwhelmingly the most important. In fact if you look at the worldwide trends, the most heavily impacted places all have that singular common trait.

High density large population.

 

[Buzzbomb]

It’s like Dr. Jen. Ashton on GMA has been stating in her warnings, totally healthy young and old, have perished. Attacking the immune system, the fever alone can cause brain damage or be fatal if not treated in time.
As a young person, I was an outpatient for a flu strain and the closest at the time or first E.R. was Grady and received Tylenol-3 for it. As my temperature increased to almost 104 degrees in the next day and a half, I was rushed to Piedmont Hospital E.R. and the two Doctors had a difficult time diagnosing what type it was. I was burning up, felt like my head was going to explode. Couldn’t think, eat, sleep. Not that I’m a medical guru, but I’ve never understood why a high content of Codeine wasn’t given with an I.V. restoring fluids?

 

[ramblinwreckguru]

Still only 10 serious/critical cases out of 2,967 total active cases in the US.

Also, as I brought up earlier, how many people are dying with the COVID-19 virus who had never been tested for it? Are any of the dead being tested to rule out COVID-19?