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I originally thought it was well within the realm of possibility that China developed COVID-19 as a bioterror weapon as a low impact way of sending a message to US, Europe, etc. Then in typical communist fashion, they f’d up and inadvertently attacked themselves. I didn’t consider that they could possibly be doing own nation population control. Sounds crazy, but figuring out a way to cull their herd sure solves a crap ton of economic issues they have with their aging population.

https://time.com/5523805/china-aging-population-working-age/
I did not read your link, but its well known that they have a demographic problem. It's been well documented in financial publications. That's what decades of one child policy will do for you. They will be the first society that grows old before they become rich. With their aging society, they need break-neck growth to support them. Good luck with that. They will be lucky to have 2% growth by 2030.
 

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I have a question for those on here who are still in the workforce (no slight to you @Supersizethatorder-mutt). What is your company policy as far as sick leave & COVID-19?
If you fear you are sick, seek medical attention. If found to have coronavirus, self-quarantine for whatever happens to be prescribed at the time (currently 14 days). Get cleared by medical authority prior to returning to work. You take paid time if you got it, if not no harm no foul.
 
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China is now attempting to claim that the corona virus actually originated in the US, and yet Joe Biden says that it is xenophobic for Trump to refer to the virus as the Chinese corona virus. Why the hell is Biden essentially defending the Chinese. It originated in the Wuhan, China, the capital of the Hubei province, so it is entirely proper to refer to it as the Chinese virus or the Wuhan virus, just as it was proper to refer to the Ebola virus by that name, which is the name of a river in Africa near where that virus originated. Was that xenophobic too? These people are certifiably stupid.
 

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China is now attempting to claim that the corona virus actually originated in the US, and yet Joe Biden says that it is xenophobic for Trump to refer to the virus as the Chinese corona virus. Why the hell is Biden essentially defending the Chinese. It originated in the Wuhan, China, the capital of the Hubei province, so it is entirely proper to refer to it as the Chinese virus or the Wuhan virus, just as it was proper to refer to the Ebola virus by that name, which is the name of a river in Africa near where that virus originated. Was that xenophobic too? These people are certifiably stupid.

Well once again Trump is instituting travel bans against largely white countries. The man is such a rac- oh wait.
 

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I work for a family-owned business with about 60 employees (management, purchasing, accounting, sales, customer service, drivers, warehouse). Our normal policy is 3 sick days per year. We put out a letter today explaining that following the recommendations of the CDC, WHO, OSHA we wanted anyone who was sick or who was tending to a sick family member to feel comfortable with staying home. So now our sick leave policy is considered "flexible" and each case would be handled individually. The letter was basically written in such a way as to mean - "if you are sick keep you azz at home and we will probably cover your time off. If we find out you are taking advantage of the situation then tough nuts."

That being said, several of us are set up to VPN from home. That's something I do on a regular basis because of taking care of my husband.
 
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I work for a family-owned business with about 60 employees (management, purchasing, accounting, sales, customer service, drivers, warehouse). Our normal policy is 3 sick days per year. We put out a letter today explaining that following the recommendations of the CDC, WHO, OSHA we wanted anyone who was sick or who was tending to a sick family member to feel comfortable with staying home. So now our sick leave policy is considered "flexible" and each case would be handled individually. The letter was basically written in such a way as to mean - "if you are sick keep you azz at home and we will probably cover your time off. If we find out you are taking advantage of the situation then tough nuts."

That being said, several of us are set up to VPN from home. That's something I do on a regular basis because of taking care of my husband.
Three sick days a year??? WOW !!! When I have been sick in the past, and fortunately I have not been sick in several years (not counting my back surgery last year), I was sure sick for more than 3 days.
 

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I have a question for those on here who are still in the workforce (no slight to you @Supersizethatorder-mutt). What is your company policy as far as sick leave & COVID-19?

The company I work at has a PTO policy combined for sick days and/or vacation. I think the number of days is pretty generous for new hires. I have been there more than 15 years and I haven't come close to using all of my PTO time when the year ends.

We can do probably 70% maybe 80% of the work we do remotely. It hurts efficiency, but we can use online team tools for team projects. The other 20-30% of the work is when starting up systems at client sites. Hard to do that without being onsite, but some clients have started restricting outside people from entering their facilities.
 

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I work for a medium sized IT corporation 5-10k employees. At the bringing of Feb each employee received 5 full days of paid sick leave. Haven’t had much more communication than that outside of if you are feeling ill to please stay home and follow procedures laid out by local municipalities. Our company is also very generous in handing out PTO credit up to 5 days.
 

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I don't have the Coronavirus , but I got something from my dad and he got it from his dad it's called old age. At times it can be painful. I checked with the doctor and some signs are moving slower, can't hear as good as you could , and he also said some may lose their hair, males also may have to get up 3 times during the night to pee. And you may notice that you eat dinner earlier than you did years ago. And he said you could start to forget things. But this can be an advantage When your wife ask you to do something .
 

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The company I work at has a PTO policy combined for sick days and/or vacation. I think the number of days is pretty generous for new hires. I have been there more than 15 years and I haven't come close to using all of my PTO time when the year ends.
Yea, i get that. I had 20 days vacation plus 10 sick days sick leave when they decided to "SIMPLIFY" and make it 20 days PTO.
Sure , they became flexible . At least it rolled over so i got paid a little when i retired.
 

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The GMT sites just rolled over about 2 hrs ago
daily new cases (USA) were 290/307/424 over the past 3 days.
>This is still measuring whats already out there plus some rise in test capability so maybe a while to go for this to measure new infections.
 

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I have a question for those on here who are still in the workforce (no slight to you @Supersizethatorder-mutt). What is your company policy as far as sick leave & COVID-19?

Not sure yet, but my guess is that if you can function, you'll work from home. I think we're about to see a rotational work from home schedule imminently, regardless, in big cities.
 

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New York Review of Books has been doing interesting dispatches from China. These are from a few weeks ago

https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2020/...ina-quarantine-in-the-uk-a-covid-19-dispatch/

And here’s one from the London Review of Books

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n05/wang-xiuying/the-word-from-wuhan

You might be thinking the pregnancy rate might spike, like it did after the power blackout in the 1970s. That’s possible. From the London article, it looks like the divorce rate will spike. (Free tip: playing video games while complaining your spouse isn’t doing enough laundry is a bad strategy)


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False. Just complete and utter BS.. You should start by taking three deep breaths.

You should start by getting outside of your bubble.



So how has the United States' response been?

"Our response is much, much worse than almost any other country that's been affected," Jha says.

He uses the words "stunning," "fiasco" and "mind-blowing" to describe how bad it is.


What's not being widely reported (yet...but don't worry, I'm sure it's going to blow up very soon), and this is may be scarier than the virus itself because the virus itself can be contained and mitigated, is that there seems to be willful acts by our government to suppress the actual number positive cases for political optics. Willful ignorance and bad acts by our government can not be mitigated or contained. In fact, they shut down a lab in Washington for using a test that was developed to identify the first case of community contact in the United States, but since it was not the "official" CDC test (that was later found to give false readings) they told the facility to suspend all testing and shut them down. Testing is still not being widely done, even though we have the means from the private sector and independant labs, because testing leads to more positive identifications. For some (doesn't take a giant leap to figure out who), positive identification is a bad thing when governments in every other country battling this are aggressively seeking out positive infections to contain it and mitigate it. We had a chance for containment earlier, and now we've lost that window.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/podcasts/the-daily/coronavirus-us-testing.html?showTranscript=1

The United States is now rapidly, and literally, becoming a petri dish. I heard an infectious disease expert say that most people don't take these things seriously until someone they know, or they themselves, becomes infected and dies. I would never wish that on anyone, but if people don't take these things more seriously, then people will die. Even if you're not elderly or have a underlying health issues, you can still get extremely sick to the point is hospitalizes you. THAT is what people are ignoring...everyone is just looking at death totals. There is a WIDE band of what can happen when you become infected. It's not just a low fever or death. Quite a few will become hospitalized. Even if hospitalization doesn't lead to death, it can lead to inundating our medical systems and taking away resources that would otherwise be targeting other issues.

Let's get something straight. This virus is NOT the fault of our government. They did not create it. However, they are ultimately responsible for the containment and mitigation of it. So far they have failed horribly in containment, and now they are failing horribly at mitigating it.
 
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