Clemson Post-game Thread

lv20gt

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I’m sorry, I didn’t realize celebrating a win was the same thing as moping around and being embarrassed about a loss. My mistake. I’ll go cry in a corner and not interact with anybody until the next time Tech wins a game.


There is a reason a lot of the people moaning and complaining today were absent from the UL post game thread. They live for these opportunities and will disappear if we win next week.
 

missingO'Leary

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Well, the good news is that now that Gibbs and Sims and the rest of the team have seen what "real competition" is, then the rest of the season is going to be easy. RIght?

If we were getting better each week, it should have never been this bad (worst loss in ACC history). Our offensive play calling in the second half was a clear sign that our OC was in way over his head and he just wanted get the game over with as fast as possible instead of working on the passing game or maybe giving Gleason some snaps.

No one expected a win or it to be even close, but 73-7 is just pathetic, rebuild or no rebuild...
 

year_of_the_swarm

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Decisions have consequences....

2016
The 2016 season was a memorable one for the Black Knights under Monken. He led them to their first win over Navy since 2001 and a victory in a bowl game. The last time the Black Knights accomplished both feats in the same season was in 1984. Army was second in the nation in rushing offense and ran for a then Academy single-season 46 touchdowns, which eclipsed the 1945 national championship team. Defensively, Army was consistently in the Top-10 in total defense and closed out the year fourth in the nation.

2017
In 2017 Monken led Army to its most successful season in over two decades, earning 10 victories, the Commander in Chief’s Trophy and a victory in the Armed Forces Bowl. The Black Knights won the NCAA Division I Football Bowl Subdivision rushing title by averaging 362.3 rushing yards per game and finished with 50 rushing touchdowns, which broke the program record. On the other side of the ball, Army was third in the nation in red zone defense and 14th against the pass. The Black Knights held opponents to 22 points per game and ended Air Force’s 306-game scoring streak with a 21-0 victory at Falcon Stadium. It was the first shutout against a service academy since 1969.

2018
In 2018 Monken led the Cadets to a historic year as his squad became nationally ranked in early November for the first time in 22 years (1996). They remained in the Top-25 throughout the rest of the season and finished ranked No. 19 in the Associated Press Poll and No. 20 in the Amway Coaches Poll. The year was highlighted by a program-record 11 wins, marking the first time in Academy history the Black Knights registered 10-plus wins in back-to-back seasons. Army also won the Commander In Chief’s trophy in consecutive seasons for the first time in program lore. The Black Knights became the first three-time winner of the Armed Forces Bowl as well that season after they routed Houston, 70-14, on Dec. 22. The 70 points put up by Army in that contest tied an FBS record for points scored in a bowl game.

Now, switch to Geoff Collins.

7-6 in 2017
8-4 in 2018
3-9 in 2019 with Georgia Tech
2-3 this year with Georgia Tech

20-22 overall record.

It's not even a comparison who is a better football coach between Monken and Collins.... Experience favors Monken, results favor Monken, ability favors Monken, ease of transition favors Monken.. There was nothing Geoff Collins had to make him a better pick than Monken. Nothing. Not a single thing.

Georgia Tech is now to the ACC what Kansas is to the Big 12. Losing to the Citadel.... 1-4 Syracuse teams... Losing 50-0 to Virginia Tech... Losing 70-something to 7 in a game. That is Kansas stuff. That is "we can barely snap the football" stuff.

Rant over.
 

jacket_fan

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I’m sorry, I didn’t realize celebrating a win was the same thing as moping around and being embarrassed about a loss. My mistake. I’ll go cry in a corner and not interact with anybody until the next time Tech wins a game.

I think you missed my meaning.
 

tomknight

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Decisions have consequences....

2016
The 2016 season was a memorable one for the Black Knights under Monken. He led them to their first win over Navy since 2001 and a victory in a bowl game. The last time the Black Knights accomplished both feats in the same season was in 1984. Army was second in the nation in rushing offense and ran for a then Academy single-season 46 touchdowns, which eclipsed the 1945 national championship team. Defensively, Army was consistently in the Top-10 in total defense and closed out the year fourth in the nation.

2017
In 2017 Monken led Army to its most successful season in over two decades, earning 10 victories, the Commander in Chief’s Trophy and a victory in the Armed Forces Bowl. The Black Knights won the NCAA Division I Football Bowl Subdivision rushing title by averaging 362.3 rushing yards per game and finished with 50 rushing touchdowns, which broke the program record. On the other side of the ball, Army was third in the nation in red zone defense and 14th against the pass. The Black Knights held opponents to 22 points per game and ended Air Force’s 306-game scoring streak with a 21-0 victory at Falcon Stadium. It was the first shutout against a service academy since 1969.

2018
In 2018 Monken led the Cadets to a historic year as his squad became nationally ranked in early November for the first time in 22 years (1996). They remained in the Top-25 throughout the rest of the season and finished ranked No. 19 in the Associated Press Poll and No. 20 in the Amway Coaches Poll. The year was highlighted by a program-record 11 wins, marking the first time in Academy history the Black Knights registered 10-plus wins in back-to-back seasons. Army also won the Commander In Chief’s trophy in consecutive seasons for the first time in program lore. The Black Knights became the first three-time winner of the Armed Forces Bowl as well that season after they routed Houston, 70-14, on Dec. 22. The 70 points put up by Army in that contest tied an FBS record for points scored in a bowl game.

Now, switch to Geoff Collins.

7-6 in 2017
8-4 in 2018
3-9 in 2019 with Georgia Tech
2-3 this year with Georgia Tech

20-22 overall record.

It's not even a comparison who is a better football coach between Monken and Collins.... Experience favors Monken, results favor Monken, ability favors Monken, ease of transition favors Monken.. There was nothing Geoff Collins had to make him a better pick than Monken. Nothing. Not a single thing.

Georgia Tech is now to the ACC what Kansas is to the Big 12. Losing to the Citadel.... 1-4 Syracuse teams... Losing 50-0 to Virginia Tech... Losing 70-something to 7 in a game. That is Kansas stuff. That is "we can barely snap the football" stuff.

Rant over.

go follow Army then.
 

SOWEGA Jacket

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Our secondary is slow. No scheme Thacker can come up with will change us getting torched. We’ve seen UCF, Syracuse, and now Clemson absolutely maul our DB’s with speed. That’s a recruiting problem from 2016, 2017, and 2018. I fully agree it looks like we are often out of position, etc. but it’s simply a lack of speed. Same with several LB’s. If this game did anything all it did was reinforce what Collins and company have been doing to build the GT brand for recruits.
 

GTRanj2

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What do you mean by "for everything else?"
Running what we want to run and recruiting to our ceiling (top25-15 recruiting class) will only take us so far. If we are trying to get to championship level, that ain't gonna cut it. It will just be the same ole results, a bunch of average years will a good year (9-11 wins) sprinkled in (which even that looks dim right now).
 

slugboy

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I think this is now true for everyone, athlete or not, from what I understand...if you get in, you will graduate. "Getting out" is a thing of the past. what a time to be alive as they say!!!
It’s not a lock, you can still fail out. Mass culling of students isn’t the system any more, though.
 

lv20gt

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Running what we want to run and recruiting to our ceiling (top25-15 recruiting class) will only take us so far. If we are trying to get to championship level, that ain't gonna cut it. It will just be the same ole results, a bunch of average years will a good year (9-11 wins) sprinkled in (which even that looks dim right now).

We aren't going to get to championship level, meaning National, without top 15 recruiting. Period. No system is going to overcome that.
 
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