If this occurs the US will need a very different approach to Olympic sports. Most Countrues have government funded sports federations that support youth moving up elite levels to make National teams. The same federations in the US are not nearly strong enough to do that, they help but are generally dependent on colleges to develop Olympic level talents in many sports.
I have a different view.
You're talking about watching games and game-day experiences. This discussion is about naming a national champion based on a playoff. What you're putting forth about game-day experience and fandom isn't relevant to the discussion at hand.
Good points. The most mediocre, coach-hating football season in Auburn Alabama still means white tailgating tents as far as the eye can see, and that will never change. The culture of football being bigger than just 3 hours of a Saturday for certain teams and conferences is simply undeniable. And that’s a very good market of eyes to monetize.
Don’t undersell theB1G fans love of there teams and traditions. Have you ever been to a Penn State game. I suspect Ohio State, Michigan are no different. Nebraska though not a traditional B1G team has as much fan support as any team in the Nation.
No, that’s not the point of the most recent posts. The most recent angle is that you can objectively rate conference performance (as if it matters) and I disagree with that. The fact base folks are using is to use subjective criteria and twist it to make it appear objective.
Not my point. I think the B1G has a wonderful game experience.
I disagree. You’re arguing that FSU beating LSU matters and UGA beating FSU like a drum doesn’t matter. That’s hypocritical. But arguing that point helps your own narrative make sense to you.
B1G football is very much part of the social fabric for many of their teams. I guess I don’t understand your point. There are more Pro football fans in the B1G area simply because there are NFL teams there and more large cities than in the old SEC teams area.
I think a few posters are trying to make the argument (perhaps indirectly) that the ACC is a superior football conference and provide all sorts of mental contortions to do so. To what end? Let's assume it is true (I don't agree that it is, but let's assume so.). So? Are most football fans going to suddenly fall the floor, speaking in tongues and switch their football preferences to the ACC? Or any other for that matter?
OK, this is just obtuse. That’s not you. FSU beating LSU in an early season game with the whole season still to be determined is one thing. FSU playing UGA without half its 2-deep because their undefeated season was rendered to not have mattered is easily another. You know those are apples and oranges. Not sure why you insist on this charade.
I'm not so much "insisting" on it as opposed to pointing out the lack of objective reasoning. If you want to compare something, create a criteria and be consistent in its usage. That's why I don't bother with it. There's no consistency. I think I have read on these boards everything from ... you can't rely on polls because they are manipulated, you can't rely on players because the QB was out, you can't rely on history because most of it was pre-1970, you can't rely on records except the last seven years, etc.
I think this is the first time I have ever read of a moderator of a discussion board complaining about the number of posts to a discussion board.
I think this is the first time I have ever read of a moderator of a discussion board complaining about the number of posts to a discussion board.
I don't care about conference vs conference claims of superiority and I think I've been pretty clear why. But no big deal. It's a beautiful day for golf too.
Just to set the record straight, and speaking strictly for myself, I never said either directly or indirectly that the ACC is a stronger conference than the SEC in general - only that the ACC this year in head-to-head results with the SEC and FSU in particular proved that it was a strong enough conference that its champion should have been included in the playoff, post-season results after the selection committee made its choice and after half its roster quit as a result notwithstanding. In my case, I think usually the SEC is stronger overall, but this year is an exception. And really, equating FSUs performance against Ugag after their being passed over for the playoff and most of its two deep roster quit with FSU's stomping of LSU is obtuse and ridiculously absurd. But you will probably go on obtusely misrepresenting my position, as is your wont.