I agree. Key has not proven he’s the answer yet, but he proved pretty quickly that he’s far, far better than TFG. We may be embarrassed to lose to lesser teams still, but we aren’t hearing jokes about the circus on the sidelines.
if key was so hamstrung under collins can anyone explain why we see many of the same issues? poor uses of timeouts, the defense can’t tackle and we typically lose the battle in the trenches on both sides of the ball. we still have had plenty of special teams mishaps and we have blown double digit leads in multiple games including one against a MAC team at home that has genuinely been horrendous in every single game except against us at home.
It’s understandable to think that everybody associated with Collins is tainted. For good reason. But I don’t believe every single player is beyond redemption even if most of them might be. I don’t believe every single coach is beyond redemption though most may be.key was here the whole time under collins and decided to retain his defensive coordinator. acting like key was some brand new presence that deserves the same level of patience i think is a little bit dishonest when he bares a lot of the responsibility for the hole collins dug. key was the assistant head coach he wasn’t some lowly WR coach or linebackers coach who’s unit was a lone bright spot on an otherwise bleak looking team.
we had key as assistant head coach and offensive line coach for 4 years and the whole time the offensive line looked terrible and our program in general looked like it was ran poorly. collins got a lot of the blame but if key was some major culture changer and program driving force i think he should have made that difference the whole time.
it benefits me and everyone on here, regardless of how negative any of us are if key turns it around, but this is just the same **** over and over and over after these losses. i will be at every home game in my tech stuff watching the warm ups and drinking my helluvenia’s and ale of an engineers, but i just can’t pretend like i see key turning this around when he has demonstrated that he is just a small step better than the absolute rock bottom **** show we were before.
maybe with a new squad after some guys get processed we will be better, but with the portal so crazy it won’t make a difference when the few bright spots on this roster are off to get theat UNC, ole miss, or whatever other p5 school with a fanbase that gives a damn that wants to pony up NIL.
I see no evidence for this.
Cutcliffe was 10-25 in his last 3 seasons at Duke. Sound familiar? Geoff Collins was 10-28 across his 3.5 seasons at Tech. Mike Elko took over last year and made an immediate difference at Duke. Even though they didn’t really have any impressive wins last year, they were a solid team and went 5-3 in conference. That’s a better conference record than we’ve had since 2018.
I actually think you don't hope he will be successful, because you non-stop complain about him, in every single thread. you wanted sanders, we get it. grow up and move on.
you guys keep making excuses for a guy who has proven after several weeks he is collins without the skinny jeans. we get it you want a mediocre program. just move on
We only had 10 players on the field is why we had to call TO. Some coaches and players will be called out tomorrow and Monday, but not in public.
Getting personal will certainly not dissuade me. It is a fact that this is Key’s first year as a head coach. Your feelings do not change that fact.
Dude. I’ve defended Key almost every time people have called for us to move on from him. You can find multiple posts from me defending him in this very thread. I supported his hire from the start. I agree he is infinitely better than Collins, but when you look at what Duke has been able to do in an extremely short amount of time, it makes you wonder what we’re doing wrong.
firing key tonight is not the right answer but if this team goes 4-8 or 3-9 again then some conversations need to be had with some people with some money cause that is flat out unacceptable at this point.
Not a good look when your best RB rides the pine for seemingly no reason. Mason scenario 2.0
