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I am anxious to see how the new OC and QB coach can help Sims. We were way too predictable before and Sims seemed to wait a beat too long waiting for his primary to come open rather than throwing on the break. Yates actually did that better -at times- than Sims. That extra beat is that much harder for the OL to hold. I hope our OC can be imaginative enough to keep the rush off balance better than last couple of years. I have no idea what improvement to expect from the D.
 
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g0lftime said:
I am anxious to see how the new OC and QB coach can help Sims. We were way too predictable before and Sims seemed to wait a beat too long waiting for his primary to come open rather than throwing on the break.
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That happened frequently. If Sims can just speed up his timing a little, our passing game will get a lot more potent.
 

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g0lftime said:
Saw him on Packer this morning. He has toned down a lot of the BS. He obviously knows this year is live or die for him. The staff changes this year should have been made a year ago. Still can't believe he kept Thacker. Shows inability to evaluate and manage IMO. He would have been gone already in the business world but companies aren't dumb enough to give long term contracts that aren't full of incentives based on metrics. But this is the reality of today's athletic world.
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from what i’ve heard from different sources is that when we decided to move to a modern offense it was gonna be very difficult to entice someone to come without giving themselves a lot of protection in the form of a long contract/buyout.
 

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bobongo said:
That happened frequently. If Sims can just speed up his timing a little, our passing game will get a lot more potent.
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part of that comes from the playcalling and based on long’s film in the past we’ll see that.

patenaude thought we had the cowboys o line or something cause the passing plays were all designed like we had a year to sit in the pocket
 

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To me it Depends on who he beats and if we win the bowl. 6 wins with next year’s schedule would be enough for me with some big wins and a good bowl win.
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i would also add if we have a strong recruiting class and we wanna move on we better have someone good in the docket to follow him up. would be a great way to end up with a miserable recruiting class
 
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To me it Depends on who he beats and if we win the bowl. 6 wins with next year’s schedule would be enough for me with some big wins and a good bowl win.
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If he gets some big wins, 6 wins will mean he'll also have losses to some crummy ones. To my way of thinking, 6 wins against our overall schedule is six wins, period.
 
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Talent on roster is still increasing when you factor in average star rating of new recruits + incoming transfers. Too many of yall are hung up on the transfers coming in having proved nothing at their previous school. Many of these kids transferring were backing up multi year or NFL caliber starters. Just like many of the young kids on our current roster, we have no idea what they're capable of. Last year we saw a D with Yeh/Carpenter/Swilling who collectively have played alot of snaps severely underperform in the secondary. To be frank, I'm really excited to see what the young unproven players can bring to the table going into the 2022 season. It cant be much worse than last year by many statistics. This doom and gloom crap everyone is spewing is just getting OLD at this point. You all must be alot of fun to hang around. I'm choosing optimism over pessimism. Go Jackets!
 
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From a W-L standpoint you are absolutely correct. Hard to imagine worse. From a game watchability standpoint, we looked a heck of a lot more like a real football team this last year than we did in 2019. OL transfers were for two reasons: Drastically change body types to fit the new system and maintain class separation while doing so. OL was always the weakest point of the transition, and it didn't help that the last couple of years with CPJ we were struggling on OL as well.

I am 100% with you on the bolded part.
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I know we had a complete change in OL after 2018, but if the 2020 OLs couldn't beat out the CPJ OLs in 2021, are we really expecting that much of a change once the 2020 and 2021 OLs get on the field?
 
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I know we had a complete change in OL after 2018, but if the 2020 OLs couldn't beat out the CPJ OLs in 2021, are we really expecting that much of a change once the 2020 and 2021 OLs get on the field?
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Collins is betting on it
I guess I am too since we i am renewing seats.
 

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not as doom and gloom as people may treat it. pretty small class and still rated decently high
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Hmmmmm. I can remember making the same point about some of Paul's classes. You can guess what the reaction usually was.

Oth, I do think this is a batter way to evaluate where a recruiting class actually stands. If you don't have spots available, you can't recruit lights out. The overall rankings are a combo of stars and numbers.

Btw, I'm not all that impressed with our transfers. We'll see.
 
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FlatsLander said:
I know we had a complete change in OL after 2018, but if the 2020 OLs couldn't beat out the CPJ OLs in 2021, are we really expecting that much of a change once the 2020 and 2021 OLs get on the field?
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Yes and no. It takes more time to develop recruits for the OL. Always has.

Also, in 2021, the only CPJ OL to get major playing time was Minihan. We were starting lots of transfers and young guys on the OL.

This year would be the earliest we should see major progress on OL. Unfortunately for CGC, it's 2023 when we should have built to critical mass on OL. He wasted a lot of goodwill with his demeanor and refusal to make changes after year 2.
 
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JacketFan137 said:
from what i’ve heard from different sources is that when we decided to move to a modern offense it was gonna be very difficult to entice someone to come without giving themselves a lot of protection in the form of a long contract/buyout.
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Perhaps. But, 7 years for a coach with no real experience as a head coach (two years at Temple that were worse than his predecessor) was a horrendous decision. If this was his dream job, he would've taken a 5 year deal any day of the week. And if he refused and was stuck on a 7 year deal and we went for someone else, we likely would've gotten a better coach in the end......:rolleyes:
 
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Fair review from Ken at the AJC

The Atlanta Journal Constitution: Comparing Georgia Tech’s signing day with its competition.
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Comparing Georgia Tech’s signing day with its competition

While Georgia Tech’s signing class is small, its proponents would contend that there is a depth of talent concentrated among the 15 future Yellow Jackets that coach Geoff Collins recruited in his 2022 high-school signing class.
www.ajc.com www.ajc.com
 

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FlatsLander said:
I know we had a complete change in OL after 2018, but if the 2020 OLs couldn't beat out the CPJ OLs in 2021, are we really expecting that much of a change once the 2020 and 2021 OLs get on the field?
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It looks like somebody beat them out. CPJ recruit? LT, No; LG sometimes, Cooper; C, starter, Minihan; RG, No; RT, No.
 
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Fair review from Ken at the AJC

The Atlanta Journal Constitution: Comparing Georgia Tech’s signing day with its competition.
www.ajc.com

Comparing Georgia Tech’s signing day with its competition

While Georgia Tech’s signing class is small, its proponents would contend that there is a depth of talent concentrated among the 15 future Yellow Jackets that coach Geoff Collins recruited in his 2022 high-school signing class.
www.ajc.com www.ajc.com
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From the article:

"The bottom line: While Tech has made gains in talent accrual, its main competition is doing the same, but in bigger numbers. As Collins struggles to fulfill his vision of establishing Tech as an elite power, it’s a sobering thought. It’s tough to compete for conference championships when simply winning the division means getting past two teams that, at least on paper, are more talented."

Sobering thought.
 
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