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I'd say Mc Gowan was a positive.In fact we''ll be fortunate to replace him this yr.
Any updates on NSD?
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Backstreetbuzz
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Great job by the staff bringing in quality recruits and transfers! The future is bright.
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Obviously The one and done guys like Cochran Davis and McGowan were solid but i’m talking in terms of signing day and only signing 15 High School players compared to 7 transfers with limited to no experience outside of Hall and Gibson. Last season was the same with 16 HS players signed and 10 transfers.
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I have no issue with taking well-regarded transfers who haven't played yet because they are just FR or SO in college.
It is why I like what 247Sports is doing with their recruiting rankings and having one that has both included.
Whether they are in HS or a FR in college you are basically bringing guys with potential and hoping they pan out.
FWIW, the overall ranking on 247sports right now for GT is 46. That feels about right when you look at it compared to other classes (53 was the HS Only ranking).
GT is basically recruiting in the muddled middle of the ACC. You can certainly argue that it was implied that GT's current staff was going to recruit better than that, and you'd be correct imo.
IMO there are three relatively equal parts to coaching a successful team. recruiting, player development, and game prep/gameday coaching. In order to be a Top 25 program (or one to compete for Conference titles) i'd say you need to be above average in at least 3 of the three. I'd argue right now that GT is average or worse in all 3 areas.
It is why I like what 247Sports is doing with their recruiting rankings and having one that has both included.
Whether they are in HS or a FR in college you are basically bringing guys with potential and hoping they pan out.
FWIW, the overall ranking on 247sports right now for GT is 46. That feels about right when you look at it compared to other classes (53 was the HS Only ranking).
GT is basically recruiting in the muddled middle of the ACC. You can certainly argue that it was implied that GT's current staff was going to recruit better than that, and you'd be correct imo.
IMO there are three relatively equal parts to coaching a successful team. recruiting, player development, and game prep/gameday coaching. In order to be a Top 25 program (or one to compete for Conference titles) i'd say you need to be above average in at least 3 of the three. I'd argue right now that GT is average or worse in all 3 areas.
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Mooney and Lewis signed today.
Bonner signed with Neb, Delaine signed with Syracuse. While both were committed coming into today I don't think either was expected to sign with GT today.
Clemson and Miami both had good days today.
Bonner signed with Neb, Delaine signed with Syracuse. While both were committed coming into today I don't think either was expected to sign with GT today.
Clemson and Miami both had good days today.
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Has Mooney actually signed on the line that is dotted? I see he's still listed as "committed".
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I believe there might be some more coaching defections before this is all through, but not Thacker. He knows he has to maximize what he makes right now. I realize there are not many left to defect, but it would not surprise me at all.
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If Tech had progressed last year to a 6 win bowl team they would have built momentum and kept and attracted a lot of players/recruits/coaches (maybe even Gibbs). Those last two games were very damaging. To your point good coaching would have took the talent available and won 6.
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Miami is not playing around- they will eventually hit with the $ they spend.
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No news for NSD, but at least no more of our current top 10 players defected. Of course, that could be because no one really wants any of them enough to offer lucrative NIL. 
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Now, this is a good topic for discussion. The collection of transfers has a direct and tangible effect on our recruiting rating. 247 has tried to take transfers into account with rerankings, but I think that's an even more inexact evaluation than coming out of HS because many of these kids (especially the younger ones) may not have enough game time to properly assess them (for a myriad of reasons).
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I don't, and you may know this, but I was surprised to learn that this signing period doesn't actually end until April 1. So, we may be waiting a while longer. No idea what the holdup is.
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Not much truth in this comment. Most of the transfers we've had have started over players we already had here. Those that haven't are either young or were injured.
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2019: Jared Southers (starter), Myles Sims (starter/major contributor), Antonneious Clayton (injured), Marquez Ezzard (bust), Tyler Davis (Starter - Drafted)
2020: Ryan Johnson (starter), Devin Cochran (starter), Derrik Allen (starter/major contributor)
2021: Brent Cimaglia (starter), Trad Beatty (film room), Kenneth Kirby (injured), Myric McGowan (starter), Ayinde Eley (starter), Keion White (injured/underclassman), Makius Scott (underclassman),
Kevin Harris (injured/underclassman), Nick Pendley (major contributor), Kenyatta Watson (underclassman)
Out of all these transfers, I'm looking at Ezzard as the only bust. Not sure what happened, as he did get playing time, just not as much as we thought he would. Ten of the eighteen have been starters, one was never going to play (Beatty), three were injured most of the season, and six have significant eligibility left. This doesn't include Juanyeh's brother who was also a starter on ST.
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And what was the record with said guys?
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McGowin and Cochran are the only ones who you can say would have played / started for any other P5 on our schedule last year. The others were in baseball terms replacement level - whether because of talent or injury / availability.
That’s the problem with saying “but what about the transfers?” They’re (generally) leaving because they aren’t making an impact where they are. Not 100% of the time but more than 50%.
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Not only is this a total guess, but it's totally irrelevant. These guys have come in and taken jobs away from the guys who were already here. That indicates improvement in personnel. I expect we're going to see a huge step forward in performance this year. You guys can piss and moan all you want, but you're not going to kill my buzz.
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I would never kill your Buzz
Seriously, though, this board (and fanbase) needs all the positivity it can get, so keep that Buzz as long as you can. Go Jackets!