And, those considerations you mention also affect economics. There's the known short-term economic benefit of waiting until the end of the year, and there's the unknown long-term economic benefit of firing him now, including the advantage of getting a jump on the HC search. Letting this play out any longer is being penny wise and pound foolish. But that's "illogical"...the ravings of a "mob".
I remember.
Happens all the time in business. By summer, TStan would have already had a view on season ticket sales and fan support. By having the discussion with Geoff then, Geoff can start putting out feelers for a new position ... which if Geoff gets one, offsets the buyout.
I'm not that extreme yet. I saw the debacle at Tennessee up close. The massive drop in fan support, the loss of suite renewals, neighbors against neighbors, Peyton Manning, locker room fights, etc.
Exactly. Arkansas was where we are under Chad Morris too.
Tennessee? Our situation is many times worse. We're not operating in the same world.
It's a new low. You know it's got to be when (almost?) no one on the site is arguing in every thread that the HC is The Guy and the rest of us clearly just don't understand football.
There are a some of those who haven't posted since last week.
I wonder, however, what CGC’s market value is at this point. Virtually every position he has held in coaching he inherited a winning program and in many of those he left them slightly worse off. At Tech, where he has been by far the longest, he has left the program much worse off.
there’s been a lot of absolutely horrendous teams in big conferences that have found a path back to relevance. washington, kentucky, duke, south carolina, missippi state, and more have been so bad and they have all found success in some capacity after.
It’s not a sensational amount of doom if we take proactive steps to correct the free fall we are in.
I think he has 3 options: HC at a SunBelt or MAC type school (he's done as a P5 coach); DC at a non-SEC school (I think his bridges to the SEC are closed as well); or a back office job in the NFL (which he has been quoted as his next stop if CFB doesn't work for him).
Like I said, anything is possible… I think in our situation it had the potential for more bad than good, but its entirely possible that conversation happened.
Tennessee cleaned house and Josh Heupel has been quietly bringing the team back. No helicopters. No Waffle House Wednesdays. No 865 (404). Recruit, develop, game plan. Rinse and repeat.
these things are cyclical. eventually something sticks. tech knows they’re in a situation where they have to right this or lose out on a ton of money over decades. actions will be made
If Rhule survives this year, he'll be in Charlotte.
No, it's not many times worse. The difference is that the UT Athletics Dept is very professionally run. (Let's set the Haslams off to the side for a moment.)
Spot on...
I have answers, but they would probably violate the rules about being snarky about coaches.
If this was an academic program at Tech (like say, ISYE), Cabrera would take dramatic action to protect the Institute, install new leadership, secure the student and keep them on a short leash.