AJC: Dennis Andrews no longer onthe Team

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Declinometer said:
In today's world EVERYONE is offended by something, many times in an attempt to be viewed as a victim.
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Is this guy really arguing that racism will not effect team morale? Riley Cooper's "saying something in a moment of anger" definitely effected team morale. Do you think a team in a sport that is dominated in numbers by minorities would be okay with having an outright racist on their team?
 
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dressedcheeseside said:
It's not just the loss of DA that has me worried, it's the loss of 6 senior Abacks, 2 sr Bbacks and 2 sr wr's. That's a ton of experience lost and the loss of DA just compounds it. If you're still thinking we can just plug in a bunch of noobs and "coach 'em up" in time to replace 11 lost veterans, just look at the complexity and perfection of execution in the following series. Oh, and we lost Shaq Mason, too, but I guess we'll just plug in somebody there, too.

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Wow really interesting detail analysis how plays work for CPJ...much more complicated than I imagined...could be a long season with all the new skilled position players learning this...
 
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Looking at the two main AJC stories that came out on the same day, I think we are much better shape than if Dennis remained in the team, but Snoddy's recovery was not going well - not to mention the other players who are returning from injury. As Monty Python would say " Always look on the bright side"
 

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The word discipline means to teach. Some people simply equate it with punishment but that is rather dull minded. If I am disciplining someone I am using a method that best helps them to learn a lesson. The word disciple, the root word for discipline, means someone who learns.

I have seen evidence that CPJ uses different methods to reach different players and does so out of understanding who they are and what they need from him to learn the lessons they need to learn.
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While I am wrapping my dull mind around this -- there are lots of reasons I like this board and this is an example of one of them -- I am fairly certain that even young football players know a word can be a noun or verb, depending on use. As much as I can appreciate an exposition of meanings, origins and word roots, it veers far afield when what we set out to do was drain the swamp and all that. (I am not about to crank up one of those meaning-of-athlete ad infinitum exchanges. One and done so to speak.) Regardless, it begs the question of equal application of rules as writ by the head ball coach and the effect on team morale.

I struggle but cannot imagine team unity, all things being equal save one, status, if Player B, a gunner on the kickoff team, is sentenced to four trips on the stadium steps and a one-game suspension for exactly the same violation as the starting QB, who is told to go and sin no more and see you for Saturday's big game.

If the puzzled and now disaffected gladiator and his three-deep teammates ask the question, "Exactly what is your policy?" do they expect the answer to be, "Depends on what you mean by the word is?"
 
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I'd be shocked if he's not engrossed in the playbook!
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Understanding a play as it's written on paper on the comfort of your couch in the comfort of your home on a sunny summer afternoon and knowing what to do on the field in the heat of battle when the crowd is deafening, the defense is howling and jumping around, the qb is calling audibles and the game is riding on how you execute your given assignment on the very next play are two worlds apart.
 

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JacketTrain said:
Is this guy really arguing that racism will not effect team morale? Riley Cooper's "saying something in a moment of anger" definitely effected team morale. Do you think a team in a sport that is dominated in numbers by minorities would be okay with having an outright racist on their team?
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Just think how bad it would be if there were a serial killer, better yet a Muslim extremist! #rightoveryourhead
 

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JacketTrain said:
Is this guy really arguing that racism will not effect team morale? Riley Cooper's "saying something in a moment of anger" definitely effected team morale. Do you think a team in a sport that is dominated in numbers by minorities would be okay with having an outright racist on their team?
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We all know how many horrible racist white football players are roaming around. Especially the ones that were once cops!
 
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dressedcheeseside said:
Understanding a play as it's written on paper on the comfort of your couch in the comfort of your home on a sunny summer afternoon and knowing what to do on the field in the heat of battle when the crowd is deafening, the defense is howling and jumping around, the qb is calling audibles and the game is riding on how you execute your given assignment on the very next play are two worlds apart.
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In some respects I concur, in others I disagree, if you know the book and what your role is and you don't have to think then you tend to do what is shown. Reps and playing time then you the ability to adjust on the fly. But you have to know what and where the play is designed to be run. If you have the playbook down the rest comes with reps and I've no doubt Nathan will get tons of those along with the other incoming backs.
 
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While I am wrapping my dull mind around this -- there are lots of reasons I like this board and this is an example of one of them -- I am fairly certain that even young football players know a word can be a noun or verb, depending on use. As much as I can appreciate an exposition of meanings, origins and word roots, it veers far afield when what we set out to do was drain the swamp and all that. (I am not about to crank up one of those meaning-of-athlete ad infinitum exchanges. One and done so to speak.) Regardless, it begs the question of equal application of rules as writ by the head ball coach and the effect on team morale.

I struggle but cannot imagine team unity, all things being equal save one, status, if Player B, a gunner on the kickoff team, is sentenced to four trips on the stadium steps and a one-game suspension for exactly the same violation as the starting QB, who is told to go and sin no more and see you for Saturday's big game.

If the puzzled and now disaffected gladiator and his three-deep teammates ask the question, "Exactly what is your policy?" do they expect the answer to be, "Depends on what you mean by the word is?"
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Yes, I understand.
I am not talking about changing the rules. I am talking about those areas of the rules where there is broad interpretation like "behavior detrimental to the team," and things like "failure to perform expected duties," and things like that. CPJ treats each player as an individual. To be sure there always might be a player who says, "How come you yelled at me and you only rolled your eyes at him." On any team I have ever been on there is always someone who fears the coach may be playing favorites. But a good coach will always have an answer like, "He is playing better than you right now," or "You are a starter and I expect more from you," or "He had a family tragedy which I can't share but if he wants to talk to you he will; meanwhile let's cut him some slack and know we would do the same for you."

It's not rocket science but it is an art. Not everyone can manage people let alone kids in their peak age range for craziness.
 

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dressedcheeseside said:
It's not just the loss of DA that has me worried, it's the loss of 6 senior Abacks, 2 sr Bbacks and 2 sr wr's. That's a ton of experience lost and the loss of DA just compounds it. If you're still thinking we can just plug in a bunch of noobs and "coach 'em up" in time to replace 11 lost veterans, just look at the complexity and perfection of execution in the following series. Oh, and we lost Shaq Mason, too, but I guess we'll just plug in somebody there, too.

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Yeah, we are going to be cyclical--more so than the factories--because we can't recruit quality en masse like they can. Every four or five years, we will gather enough good players, coach the middle tier up a little and enjoy what we had last year. But how good would those eleven veterans have been playing with a different quarterback? Shaq was significant, but our line comes back almost intact. Here's what I think: this fall we will be good, but we will be thin on offense. Next year, assuming we recruit similarly as the past two classes, we'll have established that quality depth we had in 2014. This fall we need to find a Jerry Mays or PJ Daniels type of "surprise" player to carry us until some of the younger guys catch on. We will be fine.
 
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dressedcheeseside said:
The bold part is the catch.
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I agree with your earlier post that about the concern we had a whole batch of fourth and 5 th year seniors at bb, ab and receiver who were very good at the end of the year.
I am hopeful that the new but supposedly "faster and quicker" can work in space much more effective much sooner. Athletes in space are obvious ( Holding off .1 sec longer to start a cut block, being a .1 second faster runner ). At first they will often fail to execute perfectly , but the tell will be if when they do -- much longer gain ( Jet sputtered at first but the Orange bowl was a thing of beauty) .

Coach has in place powerful linemen that are kind of quick and a 5 star qb with 2 years to go. I think the fastest guys will see the field to stretch the defense for jet to run the seam. Let's hope our concern is soon replaced be excitement.
 

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takethepoints said:
I forgot to mention the one up-side here: Nathan Cotrell will see the field sooner. I think he's going to be a game changer once he learns the O. I've never seen anybody at Tech since Kelly Campbell that can run like that.
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I'm with you on Cotrell. Apparently he's got some experience lead blocking the veer and he feels it may be an advantage to him coming in. Came from a well-coached team so we'll see. He and Marcus Marshall and O. Jarrett all come across as really bright guys. Hopefully one of them will "Roddy out" with respect to blocking.
 

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Just rewatched senior film on Jarrett, Cottrell, Marshall. Jarrett has all kinds of moves and is very natural as a receiver. Only knock is he looks slight. Could get inserted at a receiving specialist on obvious passing downs as that is not Snoddy's strength. Cottrell's senior film shows more power than his junior film and he looks like he'll be a pretty good receiver also. Can definitely run it.

Marshall to me looked like if Robbie Godhigh weighed 205lbs and could run a 4.4. Dude is built solid with a super low center of gravity. What I noticed this time was how quickly he accelerates after contact which is also where Dwyer got a lot his football speed. Also Marshall plays very fast in the trash...lots of little cuts and adjustments with his hips without losing much speed, body lean, or leverage so he is ready for contact. I think he'll be able to use this physical ability much like Godhigh or Roddy to block the crap out of guys.

They didn't seem to throw to Marshall much so hard to evaluate his receiving.
 
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