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The combined record of the 6 teams responsible for the 7 losses to ACC is
35-39

The list:
Kentucky
South Carolina (2 losses)
Texas A&M
LSU
Vanderbilt
Florida

Does this show SEC isn't that good OR they are that good (under .500) & ACC is underrated.

The combined records of the 4 teams responsible for the 4 wins is
37-13

The list:
UGA
Tennessee
Ole Miss
Kentucky

Kentucky only overlap on Vinn diagram.

Comparing conferences this way is a waste of time. On one hand ACC is better... on other SEC dominates.
 

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FredJacket said:
The combined record of the 6 teams responsible for the 7 losses to ACC is
35-39

The list:
Kentucky
South Carolina (2 losses)
Texas A&M
LSU
Vanderbilt
Florida

Does this show SEC isn't that good OR they are that good (under .500) & ACC is underrated.

The combined records of the 4 teams responsible for the 4 wins is
37-13

The list:
UGA
Tennessee
Ole Miss
Kentucky

Kentucky only overlap on Vinn diagram.

Comparing conferences this way is a waste of time. On one hand ACC is better... on other SEC dominates.
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Generally the SEC has 2-3 teams that are as good or better than every other conference’s #1 team. But the other 12-13 teams are no better than the other conference’s bottom 10-13 teams.

The SEC also only plays 8 conference games like the ACC, and most SEC teams (especially the mid to bottom tier ones) take the extra OOC game and schedule a cupcake to pad their win stats. They also rarely play conference games prior to week 4, when the ACC usually plays opening week conference games. That means the SEC has even mid-tier (even some that turn out to be bottom tier) teams with records like 3-1, 4-0, 4-1, 5-1, 5-0, etc. Then when the big dogs like Georgia and Alabama are playing undefeated, 24th ranked Arkansas in week 6 it goes down as a quality win even if Arkansas proves to be a terrible team against real competition. Arkansas might go on to finish 7-5 or 6-6, but because they were ranked in week 6 when Alabama played them it props up their resume. Also, when other mid-tier SEC teams play against each other with beefed up records, the talking heads use that as proof about how tough the conference is week-in week-out.

Objectively, the SEC produces at least 1 dominant football team every year, and sometimes a couple of them. The top-tier teams deserve their respect; and they definitely get it. What’s bulls**t about the SEC propaganda machine is how those mid and bottom tier SEC teams receive the same respect the elite teams get, even when they’re doing none of the work. The middle and bottom of the SEC is never head and shoulders better than the middle and bottom of the other conference’s, a lot of time (like this year) it’s worse. But ESPN and the talking heads would lead you to believe differently.

All you have to do is watch what the narrative is after the MIZZ vs. Ohio St and Ole Miss vs. Penn State games. If the SEC wins it’s going to be “SEE!! Look how much better the SEC is than the B1G!! The SEC dominates college football!!” But if they lose they’ll say, “Well these games didn’t really matter. You can’t base your opinion on who has the strongest conference based on bowl games or head-to-head records. Besides, look how many national championships we’ve won.”
 
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FredJacket said:
The combined record of the 6 teams responsible for the 7 losses to ACC is
35-39

The list:
Kentucky
South Carolina (2 losses)
Texas A&M
LSU
Vanderbilt
Florida

Does this show SEC isn't that good OR they are that good (under .500) & ACC is underrated.

The combined records of the 4 teams responsible for the 4 wins is
37-13

The list:
UGA
Tennessee
Ole Miss
Kentucky

Kentucky only overlap on Vinn diagram.

Comparing conferences this way is a waste of time. On one hand ACC is better... on other SEC dominates.
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I'm not getting your point. Wouldn't you expect the teams with the wins to have better records than the teams with the losses? What's surprising about this? Looks like a dog bites man story to me. Three of the SEC wins against the ACC are Georgia over Tech, Ole Miss over Tech, and Tennessee over Virginia. Kentucky over Louisville being the only outlier. The other seven games went to the ACC, including wins over perineal powerhouses Florida, LSU, and Texas A&M.

The SEC does usually outperform the ACC head-to-head, but not this year.
 
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bobongo said:
I'm not getting your point. Wouldn't you expect the teams with the wins to have better records than the teams with the losses? What's surprising about this? Looks like a dog bites man story to me. Three of the SEC wins against the ACC are Georgia over Tech, Ole Miss over Tech, and Tennessee over Virginia. Kentucky over Louisville being the only outlier. The other seven games went to the ACC, including wins over perineal powerhouses Florida, LSU, and Texas A&M.

The SEC does usually outperform the ACC head-to-head, but not this year.
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My point is comparing conferences is waste of time. It can't been done & there's no good reason to do it.

You're correct. The good teams win. The weak teams don't... no matter the conference. Comparing individual teams is fine but any attempt to "roll things up" into the group is silly. Ga Tech is not as good as UGA & Ole Miss. South Carolina is not as good as Clemson & UNC. FULL STOP.

All the P5 conferences have the same profile. A mix of elite teams, good teams, middling teams, & weak teams.
 
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