ACC Bowl Action

MountainBuzzMan

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Northeast Stinger said:
The ACC is SO screwed.

We win head to head with the SEC but lose the perception war. We are one of the conferences with an undefeated champion but can’t get into the playoffs. Three of our best teams decide to play without their regular starters in bowl games, including some leading QBs, and the media decides those circumstances don’t matter. And next year it only gets worse as no ACC will start off in the top 15.

Meanwhile, Tech could have a decent season but lose to a loaded FSU team that is perceived as a weak team and Tech might not ever recover enough in the rankings to make the top 25.

The hell with Georgia!
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Things are never as good or as bad as they seem. Probably over-reacting a tad
 
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MountainBuzzMan said:
Things are never as good or as bad as they seem. Probably over-reacting a tad
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Really.

We started the year dominating the SEC and it barely got ACC teams into the top 20.

And it never got any better. The narrative is a perpetual self fulfilling prophecy.

The FSU players who decided not to play did the smart thing even if we didn’t like it. The current system is rigged against any ACC team.
 

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WreckinGT said:
FSU just went undefeated, blasting the number 13 team in the country (an SEC team) along the way. They knocked off another SEC team with their backup QB. It did nothing for them perception wise. Telling them they need to all risk their futures to try once again to change the perception of their team and of the conference is bordering on the definition of insanity. There is nothing that can change the perception of the ACC.
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They want to leave the ACC, they might care about the perception of their own program.

Obviously their perception got to where it was - where an undefeated season wasn't enough to overcome an injury - by being bad to mediocre for close to a decade. It's not going to be an instant turnaround.

But there's no such thing as a "meaningless" 60 point blowout in a sport where perception is everything. They (and the ACC) had a hole they needed to dig out of. They just made it even deeper.
 

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okiemon said:
l. IOW, those who can’t, or won’t, think critically. And there’s a large number of those among college football’s fandom, especially in the SEC.
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Well good news is that there’s this Presidential Election coming up. So I’m sure the populace will sharpen their assessment skills..

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The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. - Abraham Lincoln.

I think that's a bit of what we saw today. The system of choice was rigged against fsu, and the ACC, to an extent. The players were left with play for pride, or make a decision about their individual futures. The ncaa proved thru action that the players only could rely on themselves. I don't fault their decisions today to make real decisions about their own futures.

The discussion about ACC perceptions will change when the ACC repeats success in h2h matchups over repeated seasons.

Ultimately, we can only control what we control, win our games, graduate our guys, lead by example. The rest is noise.
 

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wvGT11 said:
Lol ESPN announcers talking about how CFB is broken, when ESPN played a huge part of breaking it
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The only people who broke college football are the greedy *******s taking in millions of dollars in salaries and “donations” who thought they could keep exploiting the actual players as long as they wanted.

The solution was easy. Let the players create a union so you can have a collective bargaining agreement that protects all sides and interests (except the coaches and AA administrators pocketing millions).

Colleges (and their representative the NCAA) fought hard against the obvious solution and instead got a heavily conservative Supreme Court to unanimously force them to create a real free market.

Now we all get to weep because of the crap we’ve watched the past 2 days.

Thank god the NFL an actually competent league is putting up a game tonight so there may at least be some redeemable football.
 

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cpf2001 said:
They want to leave the ACC, they might care about the perception of their own program.

Obviously their perception got to where it was - where an undefeated season wasn't enough to overcome an injury - by being bad to mediocre for close to a decade. It's not going to be an instant turnaround.

But there's no such thing as a "meaningless" 60 point blowout in a sport where perception is everything. They (and the ACC) had a hole they needed to dig out of. They just made it even deeper.
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It will forever be in the Orange Bowl record books. In ten years no one will remember anything other than FSU got destroyed by UGA when they look at the records. There will not be an asterisk or footnote.
 

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cpf2001 said:
They want to leave the ACC, they might care about the perception of their own program.

Obviously their perception got to where it was - where an undefeated season wasn't enough to overcome an injury - by being bad to mediocre for close to a decade. It's not going to be an instant turnaround.

But there's no such thing as a "meaningless" 60 point blowout in a sport where perception is everything. They (and the ACC) had a hole they needed to dig out of. They just made it even deeper.
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There is no hole to dig out of is my point. The perception is stone now. Nothing is going to change it. If we go 12-0 next year and lose the ACC championship by 1 point to a 12-0 Clemson team, we are not making the playoffs, even after beating Notre Dame, FSU, and UGA. That's the reality of the ACC at this point. The only possible change to that perception is a complete full court press by ESPN trying to change the narrative of the conference. Something they are obviously not interested in doing.
 

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WreckinGT said:
There is no hole to dig out of is my point. The perception is stone now. Nothing is going to change it. If we go 12-0 next year and lose the ACC championship by 1 point to a 12-0 Clemson team, we are not making the playoffs, even after beating Notre Dame, FSU, and UGA. That's the reality of the ACC at this point. The only possible change to that perception is a complete full court press by ESPN trying to change the narrative of the conference. Something they are obviously not interested in doing.
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If the ACC blows up in a year or two then "there's nothing to be done" may well be correct. Hopefully GT's perception isn't too tainted by the Collins era in this case.

But if it lasts for five+ more years... then there's definitely things to be done for every program that wants a good landing spot.

Draw your example forward: let's say GT goes 12-0 next year, 11-1 the year after that, and then 10-2, 11-1, and 12-0 the next three years. Three wins over UGA in that time frame. Let's say Clemson has the same level of success. Suddenly that doesn't look like a GT team 5 years from now that wouldn't make the playoffs if they lost the ACCCG.

Replace GT with any second ACC school. Five straight ten-win years with some other elite OOC wins. Think that's a team that wouldn't make the playoffs?
 

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Makes me appreciate the effort and enthusiasm of our team and bowl game, witnessed by a lot of eyeballs. Terrific contrast.

But yeah college football as a whole is really messed up and “bowl season” isn’t the same with what looks like mostly meaningless exhibition games. Money can ruin about anything.
 
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