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TechPhi97

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Boomergump said:
…Perhaps the biggest lesson is really about decision making and not so much about the amount of zip. An early throw to the flat to Stockton was a very safe option (and as high a chance of completion as you can get) … Often, young talented QBs think they can make every play. He nearly made this one. The cost of not making it was catastrophic. The entire outcome of the game was strongly influenced by that single decision. He will learn and grow.
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This is good stuff (probably because I agree), so thank you. Cut out some of your post for brevity, but wanted to comment. This is what turns good QBs into great ones - the ability to increase the speed and accuracy of their decisions, within the bounds of their talent. Even veteran QBs think they can make every play and it can get them in trouble - used to say this about Drake May, he would make throws into bad spots every game.

Sometimes I think us fans think that these guys should make every play also. It’s rare to see a perfect game by anyone especially in college - giving these young men some grace is always a good idea.
 

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For QBs, a strong arm, quick release, accurate throws, are valuable attributes, but seeing the field and finding the open man is essential to being successful. King, while a decent arm, threw into coverage too many times IMHO. The run / option is clearly his best game. Philo just seems to have a bigger upside. A one time/ one game thing? We'll see. I hope he's the real deal.
 
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MWBATL said:
We need better receivers to go with an NFL caliber QB. Too many times guys had passes hit them in bad places (their hands) and resulted in drops/tips. Granted, defenders were there to distract them or poke at the ball after they grabbed it, but too often those pokes and grabs dislodged the ball for incompletions.

You can argue (as a number of you have) that Philo needs to learn how to feather those passes in, but I think our receivers need to be stronger on the ball.
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MtnWasp said:
Philo has played in the Notre Dame, Virginia Tech, Miami and NCSt games. Which one was the meaningful one?

Not a comment to this post specifically but more in general: I roll my eyes at fans who have to pick a QB as their guy and then act like support or enthusiasm for another player is some kind of disloyalty. Feeling the need to defend Haynes King is just so misplaced. To knock Philo and to knock fans for being excited about Philo because they think it is a knock against Haynes King is equally whacked.

Philo's play is worthy of enthusiasm. It has nothing to do with Haynes King.

Also, there is a perplexing degree of obtuseness among fans regarding Haynes King's health. His shoulder has not been right the entire year and has only deteriorated as the season has progressed. There was not a single injury here but a chronic condition that has worsened.

Haynes King has not thrown the ball the same as last season from the FSU game on. Even at FSU his arm strength was noticeably down and his accuracy on his long throws was poor and nothing like last season. The "vanilla" game planning by the staff is not a reflection on our OC but a direct reflection of the limitations on Haynes King's ability to throw the ball effectively.

A credit to the staff for keeping the condition under wraps for as long as they did. A credit to Haynes King for being one tough SOB and a great leader.

But, knock 'em dead Philo!
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And if any injury you better play till your arm falls off.
 
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57jacket said:
For QBs, a strong arm, quick release, accurate throws, are valuable attributes, but seeing the field and finding the open man is essential to being successful. King, while a decent arm, threw into coverage too many times IMHO. The run / option is clearly his best game. Philo just seems to have a bigger upside. A one time/ one game thing? We'll see. I hope he's the real deal.
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Great post.
Add in a touch of our WR room was hyped but we still dont get WIDE OPEN or much separation. When will we see Singleton about to catch the kng ball and think "this going to be a great catch instead of i hope he doesn't drop it".

Imo, Philo seems better at reading the field and that will make him great in late 25.

Key is building long term - ol is going to be strong, WR room will be better, and if king gets injured , pyron and philo will and have little drop off on the way to conference championship. In 25 Wienke and buster will adjust offense to ADD way more pro sets.
 
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