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I also find it funny that even our beloved IPCC over with the UN states that if we reduce carbon emissions by 25% that the global temperature will only drop 0.03 degrees. So at some point no matter how strongly you believe in the science, you have to acknowledge that the data shows humans are a much smaller contributor than the media and politicians claim.
I think that if we stopped carbon emissions entirely that temperature would continue to increase for a *while* since the adsorbtion of CO2 occurs very slowly. So any statement about how much global temperature would change has to include the time frame. The principal ways CO2 is taken out of the atmosphere is by plant life (photosynthesis leading to carbon fixation) and adsorption into the oceans increasing the pH. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide
We may both agree with this statement; "The data shows humans are a much less able to effect a change in the course global warming will take than most of the media and politicians claim."
Flooding and draughts have occurred throughout human history and will continue to. Some glaciers are gone, if not Detroit might be under two miles of ice still. Other glaciers are growing, even today. This flux has also occurred prior to "human activity."
Agree entirely, it is the rate of change today. The water level where I live at one time was near Richmond Va and at other times was out near the Continental shelf. It is the rate of change that is different now largely because humans have increased the amount of CO2 so much.
I fail to see the link between the article's hypothesis that the ignorance of man, believing in false faiths, has allowed mankind to succeed where chimps fail...that's a lol. There are much larger differences between man and chimp than belief in religion.
Nowhere did I see anything about the ignorance of man in the article. What I saw the the belief system we have constructed is in some cases based on myth. And as the article points out, it's not just religion but nationalism. "Ancient religions have not been the only ones that used fiction to cement cooperation. In more recent times, each nation has created its own national mythology, while movements such as communism, fascism and liberalism fashioned elaborate self-reinforcing credos. Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda maestro and perhaps the most accomplished media-wizard of the modern age, allegedly explained his method succinctly by stating that “a lie told once remains a lie, but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth.”
Myth can be stronger than facts to some though, that I concede. The notion that man caused catastrophic climate change is upon us is a great example of that IMO.
LOL. I figured this would be a rational response that climate change is a myth since that is central to the discussion.
I'd love to hear some of your factual data of accelerated global warming if you, or someone else, hasn't posted it already. Or feel free to jump in on prior points of debate as well.
The rate of change of global warming comes from ice core data. Temperature increase and CO2 increase are correlated over history. I tend to believe that correlation is causation in this case based on what Arrhenius showed a century ago. Here is one I found quickly: https://www.bas.ac.uk/data/our-data/publication/ice-cores-and-climate-change/ And here is NASA data https://www.theguardian.com/environ...mate-change-warning-earth-temperature-warming
And a brief discussion about Arrhenius. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svante_Arrhenius