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I would encourage you to check out 4 of the 5 coaches we had since joining the ACC pre Johnson. Curry, Ross, O’Leary and Gailey all had a reasonable amount of success “looking like everyone else”. I don’t know why we think we have to have a gimmick to put a competitive product on the field now.

Considering there was a national Championship, 18 year bowl streak, breaking into the top 15 in 14 of those years and finishing in the top 10 multiple times...yes. I feel confident saying that.

Let me speak for the other side. I certainly didn't hate CPJ. I was very appreciative of his successes here but believe it is more than a coincidence that his best 2 year stretch came with Gailey's players in 08-09. I believed his inability to recruit could not be offset by his tactical...

The transition for Fleck was ordinary. He didn't take over on option program.

From 89-04 we were a top 25 program. That's a pretty long stretch of being consistently solid with a few very good -great seasons mixed in. Not sure why you don't think we can return to that but don't criticize people for viewing 15-19 as the aberration as opposed to viewing 89-04 as the...

Good stuff and I certainly don't want you to go out of your way. You have done plenty! I do believe there is more to a punters performance than just yards. For example hang time is key and effects the net return game. On Ffrench's 3 big returns I believe they all had a really low trajectory...

I'm guessing it's a number indicating we suck at something...

First let me say the data you bring to these discussions is awesome and much appreciated! I don't have the year long data, but I walked away from the Pitt game thinking that Harvin performed really poorly. It seems he kicked a ton of really low returnable balls. Do you have any advanced...

I misunderstood and was referring to net punting. The KO return game was just awful against Pitt I know that and it looks like it has been that way all year according to your numbers. I will say that Thomas is an elite returner that we had last year and have not this year due to injury. With...

Special teams success is dependent upon athleticism above all else. Also, the punts in the Pitt game left a ton to be desired.

Only on this board...

completely agree. 7 wins should be expected not applauded.

7 wins is not a good season for us. what the hell? You are saying Vandy is a better program than we are. I became a Tech fan in the late 80’s and my perspective of the program is just nothing like what some of you guys see. Didn’t we fire Gailey for 7 win seasons? Didn’t we make a bowl...

1. I didn’t hate CPJ. We probably have similar feelings towards him if you feel it was time for a change at the end. 2. My view of CPJ has nothing to do with the fact that class size is not the reason for our higher class ranking in year 1 under Collins. 3. You are correct that we have no...

Your inability to see that class size is not a factor in our uptick in recruiting. This class is significantly better on a player by player basis. we have more points than any class Johnson ever brought in and he had many classes with roughly the same amount of recruits.

You continue to not understand what is happening with recruiting. At this point one has to believe it’s intentional.

where do you think our qb talent ranks? what about our OL? We are starting a walkon and a Vandy reject there. it just baffles me how people can look at this team offensively and not see the severe limitations.

which is why imo the field goal was the correct play. It’s not like we are going to win shootouts. Points are at a premium. You get them when you can.

exactly. I was there last year and watched in person as we were clearly the inferior team to both Miami and UVA and pulled it out. We were Damn lucky to go bowling last year.

This law is made to be abused. It’s so short sighted it’s laughable. This will become a free for all with schools going to their boosters having them arrange advertising deals. The schools with the most alumni who own their businesses will be the ones that benefit. The money from the selling...