Your choice for Head Coach

[LargeFO]

I'm going to disagree with you on the bolded, as a number of our current staff were only hired within the last year. While Key is not one of them, guys like Semore, Long, Turner, Tillman, Watson, Alexander, etc. are not in any way responsible for the previous 3 years. And while most if not all will probably not be here next year, getting rid of them just for being briefly associated with CGC does not seem like good reasoning. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater as they say. Tillman seems to have improved our DB play considerably, and Watson is likely the reason we have most of our current commits and still have recruits visiting despite no head coach.

We'd be absolute idiots to not retain Kenyatta. His in-state relationships and trust are tremendous.

 

[stech81]

I think i'm pulling for this Coach Other guy, can someone tell me where he coaches and if he is any good. I need more beer.

 

[Deleted member 6494]

I really like Chadwell & I am certainly not opposed to Key. This post is spot on and one of the best I’ve read in a while; thanks for the perspective. I do believe at the end of the day, it is more of a splash and sexier to go out and get another coach and just start over. However, the argument to keep Key keeps growing as he wins. IMHO, if we beat Miami and UNCheat, I think Key deserves a shot. He would make us bowl eligible and put us in a stones throw chance to win the coastal; two things most thought couldn’t happen when he took over.

Lastly, relationships are everything. Players want to play for Key and that speaks to his relationship skill set he can build with young people. ADJB can’t overlook that. Relationships are everything.

I have watched Tech football for the past three 1 1/2 years under Collins. I have followed college football since around 1944 as a kid to present day. I have seen the same results for other college teams who have good talent. Collins has upgraded the talent but has not used it to its best advantage.

It was evident to me that the players and maybe some of the staff did not like Collin's decisions; I am sure this had a great effect on the team's performance. It could have been almost any of the remaining staff to get the interim nod, and the players reacting positive and start to win the games. The weight had been lifted, and the team responded.

It makes little difference if the team had won all remaining games with the upgraded talent, the catalyst was probably just getting rid of the person holding them back.

I still say the smart thing to do is wipe the slate clean and do not consider an offensive line coach to be made the head coach without other outstanding qualifications; examples of being an OC, DC and various other qualifications. What if the OC had been given the interim nod and the team responded, would he not have been a more viable candidate?

If Key was made head coach and fell flat, the AD and all of his backers would be shamed for their poor un-analytical choice. The AD's choice should be outside the present staff regardless of Tech's improvement since the roadblock was removed.

 

[Deleted member 6494]

I'm going to disagree with you on the bolded, as a number of our current staff were only hired within the last year. While Key is not one of them, guys like Semore, Long, Turner, Tillman, Watson, Alexander, etc. are not in any way responsible for the previous 3 years. And while most if not all will probably not be here next year, getting rid of them just for being briefly associated with CGC does not seem like good reasoning. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater as they say. Tillman seems to have improved our DB play considerably, and Watson is likely the reason we have most of our current commits and still have recruits visiting despite no head coach.

I agree, the present staff members should be given the chance to stay according to the present AD, administration, and new head coach. The only one I would give great consideration for is the new head coach wanting to bring his Offensive Coordinator with him, as it is obvious they are an asset to each other. In fact, if the new coach has a great offensive record, I want him to bring his OC. If his defense was not up to par, I would suggest he look for another DC.

 

[Deleted member 6494]

Yeah, I am not sure people dislike him. I think it is more that they dislike the performance of the OL.

As for me, while I do blame him for the quality of the performance of the line, that is not my main reason for not wanting him for head coach. I just think there are too many very good coaches with better track records and higher probability for success that are available to pass on them for what would be an unknown commodity in Key.

This has nothing to do with the post. I just want to state on one of the biggest things that initially turned me against Collins. When he adopted the rating of players "Below The Line, and Above the Line".

The first thing that hit me was what it suggests to a player; if I am below the line, it means I am not as good as the players above the line; I am really not part of the team and have little chance of getting into a game even if I do well on the Scout Team. With this albatross hanging around my neck and not being able to get into any of the games, I have little ambition to do my best.

I also think a lot of substitution in a game makes all players feel part of a game and increases the overall expectations of the entire team. Even if a good player is being held out for a full four-year stint, he is still available for four games each year. The more the substitution rate, the more togetherness of the entire team. In fact, players who are more rested make much better players than those who are tired and wended.

 

[iceeater1969]

One thing I remember from CPJ‘s press conferences, he used to say it was the hardest thing to get the guys to focus and practice hard when the upcoming game was against lesser competition. Coach always told reporters “ the guys think they can just roll their helmets out there and get a win.” Then he would say “we are not good enough to just roll our helmets out there and get a win.” I think that’s what happened against Virginia. And it bit us in the butt.

Wasntvit more to do with With Sims getting injured.

We sent the Akron backbup qb on the field = failure to perform.


As to Choice and more to it about him leaving. In early Nov ( before 100- 0) I emailed choice my uga tickets and got a reply = thanks plus ... i am committed to being at gt and getting us to championship.

After 100-0 we stopped hiring guys into thier dream jobs- got older guys who had already done that.
So choice is somewhere else and someday may be back

 

[Techfan02]

Wasntvit more to do with With Sims getting injured.

We sent the Akron backbup qb on the field = failure to perform.


As to Choice and more to it about him leaving. In early Nov ( before 100- 0) I emailed choice my uga tickets and got a reply = thanks plus ... i am committed to being at gt and getting us to championship.

After 100-0 we stopped hiring guys into thier dream jobs- got older guys who had already done that.
So choice is somewhere else and someday may be back

Tbh I think the fact we had expectations of a qb from akron shows something.

 

[wesgt123]

I think we should narrow our search down to someone who: has never run a triple option offense ( or any derivative there of), never been fired, never been on GT staff before, not currently a G5 coach, not a coordinator who doesn’t have 100% support from the fans, never been a NFL coach (‘cause they can’t relate to college players), aren’t currently position coaches, haven’t proven to be elite recruiters, or has ever been associated with Temple. Should be easy to find a qualified candidate.

I’m aware I’m picky thanks

 

[MWBATL]

I think i'm pulling for this Coach Other guy, can someone tell me where he coaches and if he is any good. I need more beer.

I'm with you. Base don how much folks on here dislike one or the other of ALL the names on these lists, I am hoping J Batt comes up with a name none of us have thought of....maybe then we'll give the new guy a chance!

 

[Deleted member 6494]

We'd be absolute idiots to not retain Kenyatta. His in-state relationships and trust are tremendous.

I’m aware I’m picky thanks

I will make a guess and stick with it. If it is someone associated with GT, it will not be Brent Key but will be Bill O'Brien; if it is O'Brien, it will be a political choice and pushed on Batt. If Batt overcomes a push for O'Brien, the new coach will be Jamey Chadwell.

 

[Oldgoldandwhite]

While my choice would not be Key, if he got some good coordinators and recruiters, he could win big here.

 

[stech81]

I still say the smart thing to do is wipe the slate clean and do not consider an offensive line coach to be made the head coach without other outstanding qualifications; examples of being an OC, DC and various other qualifications. What if the OC had been given the interim nod and the team responded, would he not have been a more viable candidate?

If Key was made head coach and fell flat, the AD and all of his backers would be shamed for their poor un-analytical choice. The AD's choice should be outside the present staff regardless of Tech's improvement since the roadblock was removed.

I disagree 100% with 1st part.

No matter who he names any coach can fall flat.

 

[stech81]

the new coach will be Jamey Chadwell.

If he brings any of his defensive coaches NO THANKS.

 

[JacketFan137]

Tbh I think the fact we had expectations of a qb from akron shows something.

the only people that had any expectations were delusional sims haters that have spent the better part of 3 years bitching about him nonstop.

nothing about gibsons game stands out in any capacity and his stats were mid. he was just completing short passes in mop up minutes in the mac on a god awful team. people fell into delusions like he was gonna have a handle of the offense cause he played in a similar scheme at akron to what we expected chip long to employ

 

[Deleted member 6494]

If he brings any of his defensive coaches NO THANKS.

Since you left off the most important of my post, it makes me wonder about your post. He is not committed to bring his defensive coordinator; the negative attitude is easy to read. The answer to my post has nothing to do with his credentials.

 

[Deleted member 6494]

I disagree 100% with 1st part.

No matter who he names any coach can fall flat.

That is true, but the records of each coach at least gives him a better chance of making the best choice.

 

[WreckinGT]

While my choice would not be Key, if he got some good coordinators and recruiters, he could win big here.

Is there anything about Key's experience, and our financial situation that leads you to believe that he will hire good coordinators and good recruiters?

 

[AlabamaBuzz]

Guys, today's CF isn't your granddad's or your dad's or even for guys like me, the CF we grew up with. It is GEARED for offense. The D has the stack against them - look at all the silly RTP penalties and interference penalties that are called now that would have never been penalties during the Chan era or before. Look at all of the offensive holding that is allowed.

There is really only ONE team in the entire country right now that can dominate you with their D, and that is the gaggers. How did they get there? Massively great recruiting of D-linemen and linebackers. Unfortunately, although we might grab a diamond in the rough occasionally, we will continue to have difficulty getting top level D linemen. I do believe we should be able to recruit at LB better, but even with that said, we are not going to have the depth of talent needed to win on that side of the ball consistently.

We have to get someone, like UT did with Heupel, who can run an offense that can score points and lots of them.

Now, do we need a very, very competent D coordinator? YES, of course. It will be up to JBatt to make sure his HC selection has a great budget for hiring the best person possible for that position. With that said, anyone looking at a CCU or other team right now with a defense that is "bend, but try not to break" and criticizing needs to realize that is all they can do with the current rules and guidelines and talent they have available.

If you guys think GT will be able to recruit the big nasties needed to dominate on the D side of the ball and win consistently against good offenses (realize that we played some really poor O's this year), then I believe you are sadly mistaken - there just aren't enough of them to go around. We can still be effective at times with pressure and good D play calls. When GT D has been good in this new era of offensive football, our D has been able to create turnovers and capitalize on offensive mistakes. That will continue to be the key for our D going forward. Our D coordinator will be responsible for putting them in the best opportunity for success and teaching the fundamentals effectively.

 

[Towaliga]

I'm with you. Base don how much folks on here dislike one or the other of ALL the names on these lists, I am hoping J Batt comes up with a name none of us have thought of....maybe then we'll give the new guy a chance!

You know there will be some who won’t like whoever this person is. They will argue that the new coach must not be good because if they were any good, we would have already been discussing them.

 

[Techfan02]

I think if we hire chadwell we will be good, but I'm worried the same problem of CPJ will arise with recruiting. Depending on how the season ends Brent Key should be considered. My personal choice is Art Briles or Dan Mullen so go from there.