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MtnWasp

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I think if Singleton wants to go to the NFL ASAP, he won't find a better situation than what he has here. He'll have a fully healthy King back, in an offense that's going to probably make him the centerpiece of our passing game, and he'll know our playbook inside out. The chemistry he'll have with King, who will be a top 5-10 QB in college football, won't be easily replicated anywhere else. Key and Faulkner have shown they are finding creative ways to put the ball in his hands.

If he transfers, he risks getting stuck behind WRs with established chemistry with their QBs. You saw a good example of this with Philo and Stockton...every QB has "their" WR they know and trust. Singleton will have to fight for that at other places. Also, he won't be as comfortable with their playbook and his development will be a work in progress in his "WR for hire" year at the next place.

I guess that's the calculus Singleton will have to figure out. The chance to be a feature WR with a QB he has chemistry with versus the unknown at another school that may set back his draft stock. He may make a few hundred thousand more at the other school, but he could be risking more than that with his NFL prospects.
I think young people today want to get what they can when they can. They simply do not have faith in the future to buy into any "sacrifice today to build toward the future" philosophy. He wants to see what his play next year is worth on the open market.
 

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I think young people today want to get what they can when they can. They simply do not have faith in the future to buy into any "sacrifice today to build toward the future" philosophy. He wants to see what his play next year is worth on the open market.

Yup. That's the choice each SA has to make these days. They each have to make a choice that's best for them.
 

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Genuine question for those who may be more read in law and contract etc : What is to stop a booster(or whoever is offering the NIL deal) from putting in certain stipulations in contracts that require the player to play a certain amount of snaps/games/seasons at the school? Would this not be similar in the way NFL contracts offer players bonuses for a certain amount of catches/sacks etc? Or is this already happening and other schools are paying additional money to these players for breaking contracts to come to their school?
 

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Yup. That's the choice each SA has to make these days. They each have to make a choice that's best for them.
That has always been true, right? Fogies in our demographic didn't go to college with the intention of bettering the college. We didn't stick it out at a school to our own detriment because we thought we owed the schools something.

What's new is the status of the world in which the kids are making their decisions.

In terms of building a program it used to be that coaches simply recruited as much talent as they could get to come. Recruiting budgets and under the table compensations were certainly part of the landscape.

Now, coaches will have a budget and they have to allocate those resources to maximal effect. That means some players will have opportunities for higher compensation with other programs that value them more.

The scenario is much more labile and therefore more strategic. Loyalty is now a quaint notion.
 

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Genuine question for those who may be more read in law and contract etc : What is to stop a booster(or whoever is offering the NIL deal) from putting in certain stipulations in contracts that require the player to play a certain amount of snaps/games/seasons at the school? Would this not be similar in the way NFL contracts offer players bonuses for a certain amount of catches/sacks etc? Or is this already happening and other schools are paying additional money to these players for breaking contracts to come to their school?
NIL by the rules can't be a pay for play contract. So, I don't think you will find that language in any players deal. I would imagine the most that could be in there is that the player has to be on a certain team but nothing past that.
 

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I think young people today want to get what they can when they can. They simply do not have faith in the future to buy into any "sacrifice today to build toward the future" philosophy. He wants to see what his play next year is worth on the open market.
Sure seems like it.
 

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Guess he doesn’t want to be here that bad


This tweet is from last year

I don't know. As many posters have already said, this is mainly a way to gauge his value. His family was very vocal about the value of a Tech degree and really high on academics. He already asked GT for more and was told no. I would venture to guess he is going to find an offer he thinks is "fair", bring it back to HCBK and see if we do anything. If we get in the ballpark, I think he comes back. If Key thinks it's too high, then Singleton leaves. J Batt literally just did the same thing to us a week ago.

A thought on this whole thing: There needs to be incentive bonuses in these contracts. Just like HCBK has incentives in his, the players should have some in theirs like the NFL players do.
 
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I don't think it is that simple. On an open market players will have a value. Not all players have the same value. Even the same player can have different values to different programs. If a player asks for more than what the staff has valued the player, the player will hit the open market and see if someone else values him more.

It is quite possible that our staff would pay more for Concepcion than Singleton.

the general manager position in college sports went from non-existent to vital cog in like 1.5 years. Incredible.

Brian Kelly explained it that your value is dependent on team needs. You may get a 500k NIL offer from a team who has no WRs but if a team is loaded at that position your NIL offer may only be 100k. This where it is different from the NFL. Auburn may value Singleton at 1 million where Tech may value him at 500k due to depth and our emphasis on running the ball.
 

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Um… not even the NFL has this crap. They have long-term contracts, free agency rules that forbid tampering, and salary caps.

This crap is destroying CFB.
I highly doubt that many players care about that. If the money is flowing, they're not gonna turn it down.
 

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Mr. Singleton i enjoyed watching your last two years. And I wish you the best unless you go to uga. If you go to uga the hell with you and you are one of the big reasons people hate college football.

so THE HELL WITH GEORGIA AND IF YOU GO THERE THE HELL WITH YOU. If you go to any other school good luck.
 

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Brian Kelly explained it that your value is dependent on team needs. You may get a 500k NIL offer from a team who has no WRs but if a team is loaded at that position your NIL offer may only be 100k. This where it is different from the NFL. Auburn may value Singleton at 1 million where Tech may value him at 500k due to depth and our emphasis on running the ball.
This really is not that different than the NFL. Example, the Eagles have two stud WRs with complementary skills (Brown and Smith). The Commanders have one good WR (Mclaurin). A very good Free Agent WR is far more valuable to the Commanders than the Eagles. Watch how this plays out in the Draft and offseason FA signings. The big difference is the College player availibity is much greater and the players are Free Agents every year!
 

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This really is not that different than the NFL. Example, the Eagles have two stud WRs with complementary skills (Brown and Smith). The Commanders have one good WR (Mclaurin). A very good Free Agent WR is far more valuable to the Commanders than the Eagles. Watch how this plays out in the Draft and offseason FA signings. The big difference is the College player availibity is much greater and the players are Free Agents every year!
I expect 2 year contracts to become very common.
 

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This really is not that different than the NFL. Example, the Eagles have two stud WRs with complementary skills (Brown and Smith). The Commanders have one good WR (Mclaurin). A very good Free Agent WR is far more valuable to the Commanders than the Eagles. Watch how this plays out in the Draft and offseason FA signings. The big difference is the College player availibity is much greater and the players are Free Agents every year!

But there is cap space and a market price. For instance a WR isn’t going to make more than Justin Jefferson or Chase. Auburn can theoretically pay Singleton any amount of money because they have unlimited funds to do so
 

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Mr. Singleton i enjoyed watching your last two years. And I wish you the best unless you go to uga. If you go to uga the hell with you and you are one of the big reasons people hate college football.

so THE HELL WITH GEORGIA AND IF YOU GO THERE THE HELL WITH YOU. If you go to any other school good luck.
My son just texted that Singleton was transferring to UGA to learn street racing...even in somber times...that is pretty funny
 

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But there is cap space and a market price. For instance a WR isn’t going to make more than Justin Jefferson or Chase. Auburn can theoretically pay Singleton any amount of money because they have unlimited funds to do so
For now. But that can't last. There will be movement to unionize the players so that there can be collective bargaining. Then we can see the salary caps that makes this sensible.
 
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