Shovel Pass

[GTonTop88]

Watching the Jets vs Bills game and the Jets have ran a few shovel passes, none of them to amount to much though. I was wondering has anyone ever seen CPJ run one out of our offense? I don't ever recall seeing it but it seems as if it would be a good change up and if it doesn't work out it would just be an incomplete pass.

 

[JacketFromUGA]

those scare the crap out of me

 

[Blumpkin Souffle]

those scare the crap out of me

RIP your pants

 

[zhavenor]

Watching the Jets vs Bills game and the Jets have ran a few shovel passes, none of them to amount to much though. I was wondering has anyone ever seen CPJ run one out of our offense? I don't ever recall seeing it but it seems as if it would be a good change up and if it doesn't work out it would just be an incomplete pass.

Yes he has run it several times with Hawaii and in the 2008 spring game. I have not seen it in an actual game at GT though. As I believe Stylee said its a high cost play for this offense. I think it was discussed on here some time ago. It's with a half roll with the back side a back getting and cutting inside the tackle. He has it somewhere in his head but I don't know if we will ever see it in a game. I hope this helps

 

[JacketFromUGA]

RIP your pants

naw I'm watching the Houston Cincy game. I'm good

 

[Milwaukee]

those scare the crap out of me

It's just an incomplete pass if it's botched/fumbled. Many teams are doing it now to inflate their qb's passing yardage.

 

[SidewalkJacket]

I usually don't get in these hypothetical play calling discussions, but I've wondered about the occasional jet sweep with the motioning AB when he starts in the slot. Our rocket toss is typically what we do to get to the perimeter quickly, but a jet sweep where that motioning AB goes in more of a straight line directly behind the QB, who takes the snap and wheels quickly for the handoff might be a nice change up. Timing would be tough maybe, since we're under center, but intriguing nevertheless.

 

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

Seems like I remember Justin throwing one once that was probably not planned but enabled him to get rid of the ball. Don't think it did much other than preventing a sack

 

[Vespidae]

Not a percentage play.

 

[ATL1]

Not a percentage play.

How much of the passing offense is a "percentage play"?

 

[bravejason]

How much of the passing offense is a "percentage play"?

Since three things can happen, and two of them are bad, the whole concept is a percentage play with a 33.3% success rate.

 

[ATL1]

Since three things can happen, and two of them are bad, the whole concept is a percentage play with a 33.3% success rate.

Always found that quote to be weird since you could say the same thing for a running play.

 

[Fatmike91]

We definitely ran a shovel-pass play to David Simms against VPISU a few years back.

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[Vespidae]

How much of the passing offense is a "percentage play"?

Depends on zone, down and distance. The highest percentages are play action where you dont telegraph the pass. Direct plays like a button hook for 10 yds are also high percentage.

 

[Vespidae]

Always found that quote to be weird since you could say the same thing for a running play.

Again, it depends. A QB sneak is a high percentage play inside the 10 ... Its a low percentage play midfield.

 

[GTJake]

Without a TE in this offense, I think we need something to slow down the LB's.

This would seem to be a good change up, even if it didn't work for big yardage to get them thinking about it.

In the defensive schemes against us where the LB's are just bringing it at the snap, we need a play to take advantage of the vacated space.

 

[megatron]

This is the closest I can remember. More of a Mid RB Screen. Don't know if it was drawn up this way or not:

 

[ChasonBaller]

Kyle Suckahan and the falcons always run that play including other awful screen plays.....psssss Julio had 2 targets in the first half which should never happen

 

[presjacket]

We ran one in a spring game one year that I attended, which has been a few years ago. Which means it is in the playbook somewhere.
Found a video of it at 1:58 of these highlights from 2009 game.

 

[BonafideJacket]

We ran one in a spring game one year that I attended, which has been a few years ago. Which means it is in the playbook somewhere.
Found a video of it at 1:58 of these highlights from 2009 game.

Unrelated but I forgot how itty bitty Marcus Wright was...