Scheduling

[SimpleGT]

I guess my concern is how do we really know how good Bama is? They feasted on crappy (this year) SEC teams, a lousy out of conference schedule and didn't have the opportunity to lose in the conference championship 'cause they weren't good enough to get there. #### 'em. They don't belong in.

 

[jeffgt14]

I'll say the same thing I said last year about OSU. I don't care if they go on to win it all by a 40 pt average margin of victory. They didn't do their job to get in and don't belong in.

 

[WreckinGT]

The best way to look at this is on a Neutral field and you have to bet on the game. Take all the teams below Alabama and if you believe they would beat Bama, then place your bet on who. Fact is Bama is better than the 10 teams ranked below them.

So Bama is a better team than Auburn, a team that beat them by double digits just a week ago?

 

[FredJacket]

I'll say the same thing I said last year about OSU. I don't care if they go on to win it all by a 40 pt average margin of victory. They didn't do their job to get in and don't belong in.

Who do you feel should be in ahead of them?

Do you feel good about CU, OU, & UGA getting in? It's the #4 that bugs you?

 

[jeffgt14]

Who do you feel should be in ahead of them?

Do you feel good about CU, OU, & UGA getting in? It's the #4 that bugs you?

Yep. I'll copy my post from the other thread. My problem is the committee sets forth these guidelines they are supposed to follow when comparing similar teams and then throw it out the window.

It's ridiculous. The committee is supposed to value these things when looking at comparable resumes:
1. Championships won - OSU Check
2. Strength of schedule - OSU Check
3. Head-to-head competition (if it occurred) - N/A
4. Outcomes against common opponents - N/A

This committee is a ****ing joke. Just make up their standards as they go. One team took care of business this weekend. One team sat at home and whined "We're Bama! We have to be better than them!" 2 years in a row of being an absolute joke.

 

[tech_wreck47]

Tell me who they beat again?

Didn't I say idc about their strength of schedule? It's Bama, when's the last time they haven't been a top 4 team? Are you saying Ohio state should be in over them? if so I didn't see Bama getting rocked by auburn like Ohio state did with Oklahoma I also saw bama take care of business against the teams they should have unlike Ohio state against Iowa (55 to 24)

Can someone please tell me who is better than Bama that's not in the playoffs? And give me a reason of why that goes beyond strength of schedule.

 

[Coloradojacket]

So Bama is a better team than Auburn, a team that beat them by double digits just a week ago?

Neutral field. We saw how well Auburn did on a neutral field yesterday.

 

[jeffgt14]

Didn't I say idc about their strength of schedule? It's Bama, when's the last time they haven't been a top 4 team? Are you saying Ohio state should be in over them? if so I didn't see Bama getting rocked by auburn like Ohio state did with Oklahoma I also saw bama take care of business against the teams they should have unlike Ohio state against Iowa (55 to 24)

Can someone please tell me who is better than Bama that's not in the playoffs? And give me a reason of why that goes beyond strength of schedule.

So basically Bama deserves it because they're Bama. Committee agrees with you.

 

[WreckinGT]

Neutral field. We saw how well Auburn did on a neutral field yesterday.

You watched the Iron Bowl and thought if this were on a neutral field then Bama would easily be winning? I didn’t come away with the same impression.

 

[tech_wreck47]

So Bama is a better team than Auburn, a team that beat them by double digits just a week ago?

What's that matter? UGA got rocked by Auburn and then turned around and rocked Auburn themselves. It's called football, it's always and up and down game.

 

[FredJacket]

Yep. I'll copy my post from the other thread. My problem is the committee sets forth these guidelines they are supposed to follow when comparing similar teams and then throw it out the window.

I'm assuming (and you probably won't agree OR like it), the committee never got to this criteria to compare Alabama & OSU "on the margins" as the selection criteria states. They consider Alabama better based on their season/resume. One loss (Auburn... relatively close) on road. While OSU had 2 losses & one very bad one (Iowa).

 

[WreckinGT]

What's that matter? UGA got rocked by Auburn and then turned around and rocked Auburn themselves. It's called football, it's always and up and down game.

So head to head results should be ignored?

 

[tech_wreck47]

So head to head results should be ignored?

No, my point is it's part of the game. Just because a team beats another doesn't make them better over the full season. Do you really think UT was better than GT? Who do you think should be in over Bama?

 

[jacketup]

Actually, the formula was pioneered by Johnny Vaught at Ole Miss. Their schedule in his time was once aptly described as "Nine pushovers and Bama." And, sure enough, it was. Dodd wanted to play Ole Miss in the worst way, but Vaught would never agree to that.

And, yes, the only thing that counts or that people remember is wins. It doesn't matter who they are against a couple of years up the road.

Vince Dooley too. Even before division play, he never scheduled Bama or LSU--UT only occasionally. They played UK, Vandy and Ole Miss, who wasn't very good, every year. UF was nothing special either. Auburn was the only team they played every year that was good most of the time.

 

[tech_wreck47]

So basically Bama deserves it because they're Bama. Committee agrees with you.

Not at all, I didn't even insinuate that. I asked when's the last time they weren't a top 4 team? I'll ask the question again that was completely ignored by you though, who is better than Bama that's not in the playoffs and should be in over them? And why?

 

[tech_wreck47]

Yep. I'll copy my post from the other thread. My problem is the committee sets forth these guidelines they are supposed to follow when comparing similar teams and then throw it out the window.

What part did they throw out the window? Who should be in over Bama and why?

 

[WreckinGT]

No, my point is it's part of the game. Just because a team beats another doesn't make them better over the full season. Do you really think UT was better than GT? Who do you think should be in over Bama?

I don’t think Auburn should be in over Bama but if we are going with the nonsense excuse of picking the 4 best teams then I’m not sure how you can conclusively say that Bama is a better team than Auburn when Auburn beat them with relative ease just a week ago.

 

[Coloradojacket]

Or maybe the better argument should have been that USC should be the number 4 team. They won the Pac 12, lost to ND at ND. Why aren't they in the conversation if Ohio St. is?

 

[DvilleJacket]

I don’t think Auburn should be in over Bama but if we are going with the nonsense excuse of picking the 4 best teams then I’m not sure how you can conclusively say that Bama is a better team than Auburn when Auburn beat them with relative ease just a week ago.

Auburn now has 3 losses and bama 1

 

[jeffgt14]

Not at all, I didn't even insinuate that. I asked when's the last time they weren't a top 4 team? I'll ask the question again that was completely ignored by you though, who is better than Bama that's not in the playoffs and should be in over them? And why?

You are making the ASSUMPTION that Alabama would beat OSU on a neutral field.