Rutherford Staying at GT

Northeast Stinger

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Like I said in another thread, I've come to the place where I appreciate the nonsense I experienced at GT - getting out exactly 39 years ago.

It really was the "shaft", but a company or other entity could almost assuredly know hiring a GT grad would give them a problem solver, a survivor, someone who would figure it out someway, somehow.

Was it 100%? Of course not, but it was darn closer than just graduating people who study and know the material they had seen in class and in the textbook.
This is my experience with Tech grads I know. They barely survived, didn’t have the best grades, but would either get hired ahead of honors graduates from other schools or they would start their own business. Sometimes finishing the race is all that counts. It’s why I will always pull for a Tech team over any other school, because these guys are winners regardless of the score.

As much as we hate Notre Dame, and I do, I still feel like their athletes experience a different level of rigor. Then there’s Army and Navy. People who are over the top with giddy excitement over every uga win always feel a little intellectually bereft when they act like they’re actually pulling for a school.
 

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This is my experience with Tech grads I know. They barely survived, didn’t have the best grades, but would either get hired ahead of honors graduates from other schools or they would start their own business. Sometimes finishing the race is all that counts. It’s why I will always pull for a Tech team over any other school, because these guys are winners regardless of the score.

As much as we hate Notre Dame, and I do, I still feel like their athletes experience a different level of rigor. Then there’s Army and Navy. People who are over the top with giddy excitement over every uga win always feel a little intellectually bereft when they act like they’re actually pulling for a school.
Or in all fours barking like a dawg. Just silly.
 

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This is my experience with Tech grads I know. They barely survived, didn’t have the best grades, but would either get hired ahead of honors graduates from other schools or they would start their own business. Sometimes finishing the race is all that counts. It’s why I will always pull for a Tech team over any other school, because these guys are winners regardless of the score.

As much as we hate Notre Dame, and I do, I still feel like their athletes experience a different level of rigor. Then there’s Army and Navy. People who are over the top with giddy excitement over every uga win always feel a little intellectually bereft when they act like they’re actually pulling for a school.
Oh yeah, the military academies do to the students academically what GT used to do to us. My son, before he passed, graduated USAFA, and he went through the grade deflation nonsense as well. :D
 

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I think one of the brothers had an accounting degree. Iroy drove trucks and did some of the basic maintenance and the other brother was strictly a driver. They were fortunate to have some kind of niche in that business out in Oklahoma. Math really helps down the road in life.
As someone who became a HS teacher ( math of course plus economics) I was always amazed by the number of times that I heard “nobody uses this in real life “. I always told them that mindset would ensure that the speaker never would. In other words it was a self fulfilling prophecy. I was very fortunate in that I enjoyed the intermediate math that led me to the higher levels of math that were useful. I don’t think a person needs to really to do calculus us at work but having the intellectual capacity to be able to do so is the important aspect of it all.
 

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As someone who became a HS teacher ( math of course plus economics) I was always amazed by the number of times that I heard “nobody uses this in real life “. I always told them that mindset would ensure that the speaker never would. In other words it was a self fulfilling prophecy. I was very fortunate in that I enjoyed the intermediate math that led me to the higher levels of math that were useful. I don’t think a person needs to really to do calculus us at work but having the intellectual capacity to be able to do so is the important aspect of it all.
Agree with all of this. From my experience tutoring many, many high schoolers for ACT/SAT, etc., I find that they never got the basics early which led to algebra difficulty. It really is sad.

Another self-fulfilling prophecy is "my parents weren't good at math, so I guess that is why I struggle with it". It's a cop out - math is easy, but you better understand the basics including fractions. They have to be practiced repetively until they become second nature, BEFORE you get to algebra, or you are fighting an uphill battle the rest of the way.
 

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The best information I ever got on fractions by Mrs. Dean in the 5th grade was “the line means divided by.” So, 1/2 means 1 divided by 2 and so forth.

Now, if my tenth grade teacher could have explained determinants that efficiently, I would gave been in bidness!
 

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My first exam grades for my first quarter were D in advanced chemistry, F in math, and F- - in English, and found out all the grades on the same day. I called my mom and told her I was coming home. She said wait until Thanksgiving and we would talk about it. By Turkey day, I had it turned around and barely escaped a warning in my first quarter.
The struggle was real ….
 

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As someone who became a HS teacher ( math of course plus economics) I was always amazed by the number of times that I heard “nobody uses this in real life “. I always told them that mindset would ensure that the speaker never would. In other words it was a self fulfilling prophecy. I was very fortunate in that I enjoyed the intermediate math that led me to the higher levels of math that were useful. I don’t think a person needs to really to do calculus us at work but having the intellectual capacity to be able to do so is the important aspect of it all.
I also taught high school math as my second career after a quarter century in the “real world”. When students asked “when will I ever use this” I replied that they may never need Pythagorean theorem. However they would need to think and solve problems no matter what career they ended up in, and that is what I was trying to teach them. I then added that if they didn’t understand math that someone would beat them out of their money and they may never even know it. It usually ended the questions.
 
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