Romello Height is in the portal

[GoJacketsInRaleigh]

Have to believe this will be where things settle... eventually... not sure how long it will take.

Players under contracts as employees of the school. Unions & collective bargaining.

I say let's have a P4 draft too for the high school players since they want to be pros. 64 teams and 20 rounds. Must see TV.

 

[FightWinDrink]

More seriously, with our current Congress and presidency, dominated by legislators from CFB hotbeds, I could see some action taken to restrict this economic activity. SEC and B1G legislators might like the advantages they get from the current setup, though. Nothing will happen before the end of 2025, though.

The NCAA hasn't shown any thoughtfulness or initiative, and there's no reason to think that will change

From my understanding we are basically stuck in the current situation until the schools agree to make the players employees which would lead to the possibility of a players union and a CBA otherwise the ncaa restricting player movement in any way is a violation of some anti-trust labor law type stuff

 

[GaTech4ever]

That’s great if you don’t play a team sport. Wtf does “team” even mean anymore? So much for all the BS talk you always hear about fighting for your brothers. It’s like the scene in Remember the Titans when the kid says “I’m not here for nobody, I’m gonna get mine.”

There’s now just way too much money involved and futures (even generations) at stake for players to be primarily focused on winning games for their fans/coaches. The market doesn’t incentivize players to win games, winning only incentivizes coaches. My guess is, unless the model changes, we’ll eventually see players opt out of the playoffs. There’s no tangible point in playing a playoff game if you’re a guaranteed 1st round pick.

Honestly, what have Tech fans done for Justin Thomas since he won us all those games? High five him in Bobby Dodd? Post his highlights on social media? I was in a class with JT where his jersey was selling out 20 feet beneath us, but he was eating at the ****ty dining hall bc he couldn’t afford anything else. What’s happening now is a reckoning.

Edit: I definitely don’t hear as much talk about “fighting for your brothers” in 2024 as I did even in 2014. Hence my comment about current recruits’ vocal reasons for committing to a program.

 

[gte447f]

There’s now just way too much money involved and futures (even generations) at stake for players to be primarily focused on winning games for their fans/coaches. The market doesn’t incentivize players to win games, winning only incentivizes coaches. My guess is, unless the model changes, we’ll eventually see players opt out of the playoffs. There’s no tangible point in playing a playoff game if you’re a guaranteed 1st round pick.

Honestly, what have Tech fans done for Justin Thomas since he won us all those games? High five him in Bobby Dodd? Post his highlights on social media? I was in a class with JT where his jersey was selling out 20 feet beneath us, but he was eating at the ****ty dining hall bc he couldn’t afford anything else. What’s happening now is a reckoning.

Edit: I definitely don’t hear as much talk about “fighting for your brothers” in 2024 as I did even in 2014. Hence my comment about current recruits’ vocal reasons for committing to a program.

While they are opting out of things, I say we let them opt out of going to class, followed swiftly by letting them opt out of playing football for a university.

 

[GTLorenzo]

Romello, we hardly knew you.

 

[AlabamaBuzz]

If you would have told me 50 years ago that college football would have a more wide open, free for all type free agency than the NFL, I would have just laughed at the absurdity, but here we are.

 

[stinger78]

Since nobody else seems willing or able- in a perfect world the feds (I know, they can’t govern jack) would set rules for cfb with neutral refs for all games, salary caps, collective bargaining, and actual laws/penalties. Create an agency that can enforce these laws with huge fees and/or prison time for those who tamper with or pay players under the table. Also, get rid of this current portal window and just have one after Spring ball.

Personally, I’d prefer the Feds stay out of it. They created this mess.

 

[stinger78]

How exactly would this work since the NIL is not (supposed to be) directly linked to the school. How can any entity regulate commerce between two independent parties like an NIL collective and the players? Would the government be able to set a cap on how much Shohei Ohtani can be paid by New Balance or LeBron can make from Nike? I doubt it.

The NIL collective is a poison pill. There is no remedy unless Congress give NCAA schools antitrust exemption to regulate the movement of players between schools. It cannot be through a cap on NIL funds.

That’s the answer, but the Feds won’t do that in my lifetime.

 

[BleedGoldNWhite21]

Bama fans thinks Ryan Williams is entering the portal. Maybe enough elite WRs go in the portal, Singleton will stay

 

[jgtengineer]

That’s the answer, but the Feds won’t do that in my lifetime.

The easiest solution is for it to go back to sit one, unless a coach leaves in a way but using contracts. Remove "signing day" and make it where you can sign someone at any time. NIL contracts come with buyouts (you sign for 2 years you leave after 1 you owe etc) Some players might sing 4 year deals. remove the concept of a redshirt everyone gets 5 years of eligibility with a 6th year grant if a player is on track to graduate with a graduate degree at the time of asking. NIL contracts would have a breach out clause should a circumstance outside the players control happen (coach leaves/is fired) forcing a transfer with a medical out clause for an ill family nuclear family members (mother, father, sibling, wife,child).

Second the concept of a "scholarship" is gone. Players pay for school like everyone else. Its worked into the NIL payout. This will actually benefit non athletes as schools will now have a nice incentive to keep tuition cost down again. A player can gain an academic scholarship to the school like any other student.

This will also sorta fix the transfer portal. That moves to May and exists for a 4 week period. It operates more like free agency and since you have actual contracts with binding agreements it would only be for a small number. Players would know if coaches were going to resign them after spring cuts giving the players and coaches the summer to work out these deals through their front office.

The moving of the free agency period to may also incentivizes playing in bowl games, and helps out with retention.

I also am in favor of moving an FCS game to the spring window. The idea being your starters likely sit but the FCS schools get the revenue they need for their programs/NIL and you get a good look at your depth. A player that is getting cut also has a chance for some game film prior to increase their stock. Removing FCS games from the Regular season and reducing the season from 12 games to 11 allows us to move the start date of a 16 team playoff up and removes the .500 season. Making the bowl games better.

 

[gtee91]

Bama fans thinks Ryan Williams is entering the portal. Maybe enough elite WRs go in the portal, Singleton will stay

I do wonder if a school waits and sees before inking that big check...rumors are flying

 

[SOWEGA Jacket]

The Wild West is much preferred over the previous system. You guys were just brainwashed by the previous overseers of the sport who created a totally fake sport for the last 60 years and simply can’t admit it. The bowl system and the NCAA were the most corrupt part of any American sport in history and is on par with the corruption of the IOC and FIFA.

What we have today is so much better and I hope we never have another dictator in charge of college football. Right now, this sport is as clean as ever. Players, coaches, and fans are all free to do what they want without penalty. The days of some teams buying players while a GT type team gets put on probation are over. The only question today in college football is how much do you want to spend. That is as pure as you can get. No different than what we all do everyday on every purchasing decision. The days of exploiting a player and having coaches lie and hold them hostage for years are over.

 

[stinger78]

Removing FCS games from the Regular season and reducing the season from 12 games to 11 allows us to move the start date of a 16 team playoff up and removes the .500 season. Making the bowl games better.

Most programs need 12 games to make budget.

 

[cpf2001]

If you would have told me 50 years ago that college football would have a more wide open, free for all type free agency than the NFL, I would have just laughed at the absurdity, but here we are.

Fifty years is a neat look back because the last 50 years of NFL free agency show a model that CFB hopefully follows.

The history of NFL Free Agency

In 1976, the NFLPA challenged the Rozelle Rule in Mackey v. NFL. The court found that the rule violated Section 1 of the Sherman Act as an unreasonable restraint on trade. The court stated that the rule deterred clubs from negotiating with and signing free agents, decreased players' bargaining power in contract negotiations, denied players the right to sell services in an open market, and hindered the movement in interstate commerce of players.
However, the NFLPA sacrificed its free agency victory in Mackey v. NFL for other employment benefits in the 1977 NFL CBA….

We’re still in the “rules overturned by the Supreme Court” stage of CFB.

CBA can’t come soon enough.

 

[leatherneckjacket]

The easiest solution is for it to go back to sit one, unless a coach leaves in a way but using contracts. Remove "signing day" and make it where you can sign someone at any time. NIL contracts come with buyouts (you sign for 2 years you leave after 1 you owe etc) Some players might sing 4 year deals. remove the concept of a redshirt everyone gets 5 years of eligibility with a 6th year grant if a player is on track to graduate with a graduate degree at the time of asking. NIL contracts would have a breach out clause should a circumstance outside the players control happen (coach leaves/is fired) forcing a transfer with a medical out clause for an ill family nuclear family members (mother, father, sibling, wife,child).

Second the concept of a "scholarship" is gone. Players pay for school like everyone else. Its worked into the NIL payout. This will actually benefit non athletes as schools will now have a nice incentive to keep tuition cost down again. A player can gain an academic scholarship to the school like any other student.

This will also sorta fix the transfer portal. That moves to May and exists for a 4 week period. It operates more like free agency and since you have actual contracts with binding agreements it would only be for a small number. Players would know if coaches were going to resign them after spring cuts giving the players and coaches the summer to work out these deals through their front office.

The moving of the free agency period to may also incentivizes playing in bowl games, and helps out with retention.

I also am in favor of moving an FCS game to the spring window. The idea being your starters likely sit but the FCS schools get the revenue they need for their programs/NIL and you get a good look at your depth. A player that is getting cut also has a chance for some game film prior to increase their stock. Removing FCS games from the Regular season and reducing the season from 12 games to 11 allows us to move the start date of a 16 team playoff up and removes the .500 season. Making the bowl games better.

As soon as the NCAA puts rules in place that limits the players movement between schools, including making them sit a year if they transfer, they will be sued and they will lose. The NCAA lost any power they had when they lost the NIL suit. You cannot limit an individual from making money without antitrust exemption. That is the only path forward.

 

[Root4GT]

If you would have told me 50 years ago that college football would have a more wide open, free for all type free agency than the NFL, I would have just laughed at the absurdity, but here we are.

50 years ago neither pro or college football had anything close to Free Agency! The NFL got its first limited Free Agency in 1984.

 

[alagold]

Romello, we hardly knew you.

These guys are hard to find.We got what we hoped to get-- a SR and a real RUSH end who can cause problems.The The other side is Sr K Harris, the transfer from Bama ,that finally this year did a little something.

 

[gte447f]

As soon as the NCAA puts rules in place that limits the players movement between schools, including making them sit a year if they transfer, they will be sued and they will lose. The NCAA lost any power they had when they lost the NIL suit. You cannot limit an individual from making money without antitrust exemption. That is the only path forward.

But they’re not getting paid by the universities to play football. They are getting paid by some fan club for use of their name image and likeness. They are still amateur football players. So why can’t the ncaa make rules about the amateur football league?

 

[Bogey]

Personally, I’d prefer the Feds stay out of it. They created this mess.

What mess have they ever fixed, even the ones that they themselves have created? Social Security? Medicare? Our tax code?

 

[stinger78]

As soon as the NCAA puts rules in place that limits the players movement between schools, including making them sit a year if they transfer, they will be sued and they will lose. The NCAA lost any power they had when they lost the NIL suit. You cannot limit an individual from making money without antitrust exemption. That is the only path forward.

Contracts and no-competes are still legal.