JacketFromUGA
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Actually HOPE is the plan for the vast majority of Georgia kidsI'm mostly in agreement with your post, except, "hope next year is better". As I tell my 2 kids, HOPE is not a plan!
Actually HOPE is the plan for the vast majority of Georgia kidsI'm mostly in agreement with your post, except, "hope next year is better". As I tell my 2 kids, HOPE is not a plan!
My son who is a junior is at:
3-9
9-4
5-6
I don't need HOPE, I have ZELLActually HOPE is the plan for the vast majority of Georgia kids
It's not just the head coach it's the others he attracts...Ross Friedgen and O'Leary...tough a bunchBobby Dodd was a Hall of Fame coach his record from 1958 thru 1961 was as follows:
'58 5-4-1 UGA L
'59 6-5 UGA L Gator Bowl L
'60 5-5 UGA L
'61 7-4 UGA W Gator Bowl L
CPJ may be the 2nd best coach in GT history and the debate should be where he ranks against Heisman, Dodd, & Ross!
Bobby Dodd was a Hall of Fame coach his record from 1958 thru 1961 was as follows:
'58 5-4-1 UGA L
'59 6-5 UGA L Gator Bowl L
'60 5-5 UGA L
'61 7-4 UGA W Gator Bowl L
CPJ may be the 2nd best coach in GT history and the debate should be where he ranks against Heisman, Dodd, & Ross!
And we never will have those players again unless major changes are made in athletics and academics.In Coach Dodd's biography he admitted that he entertained thoughts of going to Texas at that time. Recruiting had really gotten to him. His wife said that he was depressed about the whole situation especially the Hill. He felt like he just did not have the players and Tech was playing Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Tennessee and LSU at the time and that was a tough row to hoe. Admittedly, Auburn won a national championship in 1958 and Tech gave them all they wanted. Georgia was pretty good but nowhere near what they would become in a few years. It just seemed like we lost several heart breakers like 1961 to Alabama when we led 15-0 at the half. But he pulled himself and the team together and managed to recruit Billy Lothridge and Billy Martin among others to have some good years to end his tenure.
Congrats! Keep it up.I don't need HOPE, I have ZELL
Thank you!!Congrats! Keep it up.
My four years were:
1 - 10
6 - 5
3 - 8
6 - 4 - 1
One of those 10 losses included Hershal running past the Rat section leaving defenders scattered in his wake. I was in the front row and can still see it clearly in my mind. Trust me, we got it good, now.
For the record, I originally posted our '58 - '61 record on another site because those were the seasons I experienced as a Tech student. I was not trying to cherry pick a bad stretch; just trying to provide a little perspective, especially for the trigger happy fire-the-coach crowd. Dodd's glory years were the early/mid 50s. After that, not so much. He was constantly being criticized for his ultra conservative offense.
I might add that expectations have changed along with the rest of college football. Look at William Alexander's record at Tech. Coach Alex had a 54% win ratio, but he also won a national championship and was the first coach to take a team to the four major bowls. That was enough to withstand several long droughts; from 1929 to 1938 Tech had one (1) winning season (6-3-1 in 1937) and broke even 3 times. God alone knows what fans would have done these days if a team that won the national championship (1928) then had eight straight losing or break even seasons. They wouldn't have stopped at firing him, that's for sure.
Our down period in the early '80s was caused by TECH. alumni in the late '70s who wanted Pepper gone. They purposely wrecked recruiting for the 1979 class. Dr. Petit came very close to shutting down the football program because of it.Man, you said it. The late 70s and early 80s were much worse than today. There is literally no comparison. Someone in the athletic department said he knew we were in real trouble when one year we played a pretty bad Memphis State team in football and they had better players than we did across the board even though we somehow managed to win. Coach Curry had one of the most difficult rebuilding jobs in all of college football that's for sure.
That was also during the time the regents took our school of Commerce and moved it to Athens and then back to Atlanta as Georgia State a couple of years later.Coach Alex let the game pass him by during the 1930s and early 1940s. One book I read stated that he would not have survived anywhere but at Georgia Tech. We were that bad during the depression years and World War II.
I agree with the general premise on Alex in the 30’s, but we went to the Cotton, Sugar, and Orange bowls in 42, 43, and 44...all during WWII. Those were Alexander’s final three seasons...Tech was pretty good in the 40sCoach Alex let the game pass him by during the 1930s and early 1940s. One book I read stated that he would not have survived anywhere but at Georgia Tech. We were that bad during the depression years and World War II.
Our down period in the early '80s was caused by TECH. alumni in the late '70s who wanted Pepper gone. They purposely wrecked recruiting for the 1979 class. Dr. Petit came very close to shutting down the football program because of it.
I agree with the general premise on Alex in the 30’s, but we went to the Cotton, Sugar, and Orange bowls in 42, 43, and 44...all during WWII. Those were Alexander’s final three seasons...Tech was pretty good in the 40s
In Coach Dodd's biography he admitted that he entertained thoughts of going to Texas at that time. Recruiting had really gotten to him. His wife said that he was depressed about the whole situation especially the Hill. He felt like he just did not have the players and Tech was playing Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Tennessee and LSU at the time and that was a tough row to hoe. Admittedly, Auburn won a national championship in 1958 and Tech gave them all they wanted. Georgia was pretty good but nowhere near what they would become in a few years. It just seemed like we lost several heart breakers like 1961 to Alabama when we led 15-0 at the half. But he pulled himself and the team together and managed to recruit Billy Lothridge and Billy Martin among others to have some good years to end his tenure.
Don’t forget Bill Curry. It was Dodd who told him to take the Alabama job and that he’d never win at Tech. The deck was too stacked against him.