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I was thinking about it in the shower this morning and realized I flipped what I meant to say. Dictionaries are DESCRIPTIVE, not PROSCRIPTIVE. The describe the language as it is, not proscribe the language the way it is supposed to be....and I wasn't even drinking. (well, unless you count cough syrup)That's the definition of lexicography. Dictionaries are proscriptive, not descriptive. Dictionaries are living documents in that they don't define what the word means statically, they define what the word means in its current use. Lexicographers are constantly revising dictionary definitions because the meaning of the word changes with use. A great read on this is Kory Stamper's Word by Word. She is a lexicographer that used to work for Merriam-Webster.
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Well, meanings change over timeI was thinking about it in the shower this morning and realized I flipped what I meant to say. Dictionaries are DESCRIPTIVE, not PROSCRIPTIVE. The describe the language as it is, not proscribe the language the way it is supposed to be....and I wasn't even drinking. (well, unless you count cough syrup)
Oooooh. A word I have never seen before. And so perfect for this thread!It’s causing a feeling of leucocholy on the board.
So perfect for the usual “get lost in the weeds” Tech fan.Oooooh. A word I have never seen before. And so perfect for this thread!
Yes, racist is the prime example today. After everyone learned that the word could be used to bludgeon your political opponent, off to the races it was.Well, meanings change over time
I disagree somewhat....I don't think the meaning of that word has changed at all. WTBS, its so overworked and cliche now it has lost its potency.Yes, racist is the prime example today. After everyone learned that the word could be used to bludgeon your political opponent, off to the races it was.
The original definition was "the belief that one was superior to another based on race." Nothing else. Now, it has other meanings, as well.I disagree somewhat....I don't think the meaning of that word has changed at all. WTBS, its so overworked and cliche now it has lost its potency.
The thing to remember is that language is dynamic. A dictionary is a living document used to "describe" the meaning of the word as it is used in modern language. Many, many words have morphed from one meaning to another over time. Dictionaries are there to describe the way a word is used as opposed to prescribing what the word is supposed to mean.Yes, racist is the prime example today. After everyone learned that the word could be used to bludgeon your political opponent, off to the races it was.
No controversy in my eyes. The word has evolved to mean more than it originally did. That's neither good nor bad, it is just what it is.Good Lord this thread is teetering on controversy.
When I think of a word that has changed meaning I think of words that are no longer used with the first definition or in which the most obscure definition has now supplanted all other definitions in popular usage. Gross and suffer come to mind off the top of my head.
I will suffer your comment but the other poster’s comment was too gross in its scope.No controversy in my eyes. The word has evolved to mean more than it originally did. That's neither good nor bad, it is just what it is.
I agree with the dynamics of the language. For instance, also, the word "vaccine" and what it's been asked to morph into compared to what the word has meant for decades.The thing to remember is that language is dynamic. A dictionary is a living document used to "describe" the meaning of the word as it is used in modern language. Many, many words have morphed from one meaning to another over time. Dictionaries are there to describe the way a word is used as opposed to prescribing what the word is supposed to mean.
And then there is my 10 year old. He was reading an old kid's book published in the 1950s that I had laying around from my childhood. PaPaaa, this book has the word "gay" in it! Yeah kid, it used to mean happy or cheerful, but not anymore.Good Lord this thread is teetering on controversy.
When I think of a word that has changed meaning I think of words that are no longer used with the first definition or in which the most obscure definition has now supplanted all other definitions in popular usage. Gross and suffer come to mind off the top of my head.
Yeah, that meaning changed in the 1940s but probably was an “underground” word in the 1920s.And then there is my 10 year old. He was reading an old kid's book published in the 1950s that I had laying around from my childhood. PaPaaa, this book has the word "gay" in it! Yeah kid, it used to mean happy or cheerful, but not anymore.
I was thinking the same thing... I wonder what kids would think that the Flintstones and Rubbles were causing you to do when you are with them.And then there is my 10 year old. He was reading an old kid's book published in the 1950s that I had laying around from my childhood. PaPaaa, this book has the word "gay" in it! Yeah kid, it used to mean happy or cheerful, but not anymore.
I think it was the movie “Bringing Up Baby” where Cary Grant says he turned gay and it is clear he has both meanings in mind. But maybe it was a different Cary Grant movie.I was thinking the same thing... I wonder what kids would think that the Flintstones and Rubbles were causing you to do when you are with them.
... When you're with the Flintstones
Have a yabba-dabba-doo time
A dabba-doo time
We'll have a gay old time...
Actually, the word vaccine came about from inoculation. Edward Jenner noticed that milkmaids (all 8 of them in a row) who had previously had cowpox were immune to smallpox. So he gave people cowpox, which was relatively benign to protect them from smallpox. The word "vaccine" comes from the Latin word for cow, "vacca."I agree with the dynamics of the language. For instance, also, the word "vaccine" and what it's been asked to morph into compared to what the word has meant for decades.
They don't call them the "Gay 90's" for no reason.And then there is my 10 year old. He was reading an old kid's book published in the 1950s that I had laying around from my childhood. PaPaaa, this book has the word "gay" in it! Yeah kid, it used to mean happy or cheerful, but not anymore.