No uga

[Vespidae]

we are in the big boy neighborhood in college football and frankly the Atlanta media views us as a Tier 2 when you compare us to the UGA, Clemson's Auburn and Bamas of the world.

It isn’t just the media. We are an ACC school in the heart of the SEC.

 

[BleedGoldNWhite21]

I think you are spot on about the feelings of our fan base. However, the local media is going to be tough to bring back. As Stansbury says, we are in the big boy neighborhood in college football and frankly the Atlanta media views us as a Tier 2 when you compare us to the UGA, Clemson's Auburn and Bamas of the world. If we beat UGA three in a row (big if) I think that narrative starts to change. But we can't go out and keep getting our asses handed to us by our two biggest rivals and expect the media to respect the program even if we do have winning seasons.

I think back to the 85-90 basketball seasons. The BB program truly owned Atlanta and the media during that run. It can happen in football, but we have to start winning these games. And for the record I want to play UGA also, but Clemson is a more important game IMO.

This is true, but I also have to ask: How many teams have beaten Clemson and UGA the last three years? It’s frustrating as hell, but I’d argue it’s more a sign of bad luck that are two biggest rivals are two of the top 5 programs right now than a sign of our deficiencies.

 

[Augusta_Jacket]

We will ALWAYS play uga.

Except this year...

 

[bke1984]

We will ALWAYS play uga.

Except this year...maybe

 

[bke1984]

I could see a scenario where bowl games outside the playoff are canceled and we end up playing uGA in December

 

[Wrecked]

This is true, but I also have to ask: How many teams have beaten Clemson and UGA the last three years? It’s frustrating as hell, but I’d argue it’s more a sign of bad luck that are two biggest rivals are two of the top 5 programs right now than a sign of our deficiencies.

Agree completely its bad luck, but if we want our own local media to start treating us differently we have to change the narrative. And that means winning, which is a big ask right now.

 

[Wrecked]

I could see a scenario where bowl games outside the playoff are canceled and we end up playing uGA in December

UGA will be in the playoff

 

[gtrower]

Your drinking if you think UGA needs to play us to keep their brand in Atlanta. They own Atlanta. The press and electronic media fawns over them, the SEC holds its football kickoff and title game here. UGA plays in the MBS more than we do. We are an after thought in our own city. The Athletic just demoted Tech and took away our beat writer. I like that CGC wants to try and take back the city, but you've got to get this series competitive if you want that. UGA could deal a near death blow to our football program by cancelling the series.

looks like we found somebody else that doesn’t understand branding. Again, uga will fight to keep this rivalry harder than we ever do. They need it more than we do. When we get to the point that we don’t need the payday, we’d be smart to end the rivalry to bleed their hold on atl.

 

[bke1984]

UGA will be in the playoff

HAHAHAHA

 

[Vespidae]

looks like we found somebody else that doesn’t understand branding. Again, uga will fight to keep this rivalry harder than we ever do. They need it more than we do. When we get to the point that we don’t need the payday, we’d be smart to end the rivalry to bleed their hold on atl.

I understand branding pretty well. I ran it for a Fortune 50 company across about 180 countries. Maybe you can explain it to me. UGA gets a helluva lot more out of playing (insert nationally relevant program here) in Athens than anything they might get by playing Tech.

Let‘s face it. We’re OOC. It meant something once. It doesn’t now.

Don‘t get me wrong. I love playing UGA. But do they “need” us? No.

 

[LibertyTurns]

UGA will be in the playoff

Pre-season National Championship playoff? I can see that happening.

 

[Fatmike91]

I don’t know man. Every time we are supposed to play UCF all hell breaks loose. First a hurricane then COVID. God only knows what would happen if we try to play them again.

I seem to remember it didn’t even rain for that “fake” hurricane.

/

 

[gtrower]

I understand branding pretty well. I ran it for a Fortune 50 company across about 180 countries. Maybe you can explain it to me. UGA gets a helluva lot more out of playing (insert nationally relevant program here) in Athens than anything they might get by playing Tech.

Let‘s face it. We’re OOC. It meant something once. It doesn’t now.

Don‘t get me wrong. I love playing UGA. But do they “need” us? No.

When you ran your ads for your company, did you focus money in the location of your target demographic?

Is their target demographic Atlanta, GA?

Is our target demographic Athens, GA?

Can we control who uga plays in Athens?

Can we control who Tech plays in Atlanta?

 

[JacketOff]

When you ran your ads for your company, did you focus money in the location of your target demographic?

Is their target demographic Atlanta, GA?

Is our target demographic Athens, GA?

Can we control who uga plays in Athens?

Can we control who Tech plays in Atlanta?

What you’re saying about squeezing UGA out of Atlanta is not relevant, simply because they already control the Atlanta market. UGA does not need to continue to play Tech in Atlanta to maintain its stronghold on the city. Tech resides in the most populous metro area in the southeast, and cannot fill the 3rd smallest stadium in the southeast (only Vandy and Duke are smaller.) You’d be hard pressed to even find a single neighborhood, block, street, or even apartment floor anywhere in the state, and even in Atlanta, where the majority of sports fans there root for Tech. There’s probably just as many out-of-state fans in Atlanta than there are Tech fans.

Add to all of that the fact that UGA has the potential to play 3 games in Atlanta every single year without Tech on the schedule (CFA Kick-Off, SECCG, Peach Bowl), that extra game at Tech every other year is virtually meaningless for their connection to Atlanta.

To answer your question, their target demographic is everyone residing in the state of Georgia. Yes, that includes Atlanta. Sanford Stadium can hold 73% of the total Athens population. Bobby Dodd can hold 11% of the city of Atlanta’s population, and less than 1% of the entire metro area’s population. Guess which one of those stadiums sells out consistently.

I don’t want to stop playing Georgia. I hate Georgia, and hope Tech beats them every chance they get. But, Tech needs the UGA rivalry waayyyyy more than UGA does. If COFH was permanently cancelled, Georgia Tech football would be about as relevant as Mercer football in the state of Georgia under the current circumstances. If Tech does start competing for ACC championships and NY6 games, that may change, but right now Tech can’t afford not to play Georgia, unless they can replace them with Alabama, Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, LSU, Oklahoma, Texas, Michigan, etc. But even those games won’t matter if Tech can’t beat them every once in a while, which is why COFH has lost much of its meaning. 4-16 since the turn of the century does no favors for drawing attention.

 

[Wrecked]

What you’re saying about squeezing UGA out of Atlanta is not relevant, simply because they already control the Atlanta market. UGA does not need to continue to play Tech in Atlanta to maintain its stronghold on the city. Tech resides in the most populous metro area in the southeast, and cannot fill the 3rd smallest stadium in the southeast (only Vandy and Duke are smaller.) You’d be hard pressed to even find a single neighborhood, block, street, or even apartment floor anywhere in the state, and even in Atlanta, where the majority of sports fans there root for Tech. There’s probably just as many out-of-state fans in Atlanta than there are Tech fans.

Add to all of that the fact that UGA has the potential to play 3 games in Atlanta every single year without Tech on the schedule (CFA Kick-Off, SECCG, Peach Bowl), that extra game at Tech every other year is virtually meaningless for their connection to Atlanta.

To answer your question, their target demographic is everyone residing in the state of Georgia. Yes, that includes Atlanta. Sanford Stadium can hold 73% of the total Athens population. Bobby Dodd can hold 11% of the city of Atlanta’s population, and less than 1% of the entire metro area’s population. Guess which one of those stadiums sells out consistently.

I don’t want to stop playing Georgia. I hate Georgia, and hope Tech beats them every chance they get. But, Tech needs the UGA rivalry waayyyyy more than UGA does. If COFH was permanently cancelled, Georgia Tech football would be about as relevant as Mercer football in the state of Georgia under the current circumstances. If Tech does start competing for ACC championships and NY6 games, that may change, but right now Tech can’t afford not to play Georgia, unless they can replace them with Alabama, Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, LSU, Oklahoma, Texas, Michigan, etc. But even those games won’t matter if Tech can’t beat them every once in a while, which is why COFH has lost much of its meaning. 4-16 since the turn of the century does no favors for drawing attention.

Well stated!

 

[gtrower]

What you’re saying about squeezing UGA out of Atlanta is not relevant, simply because they already control the Atlanta market. UGA does not need to continue to play Tech in Atlanta to maintain its stronghold on the city. Tech resides in the most populous metro area in the southeast, and cannot fill the 3rd smallest stadium in the southeast (only Vandy and Duke are smaller.) You’d be hard pressed to even find a single neighborhood, block, street, or even apartment floor anywhere in the state, and even in Atlanta, where the majority of sports fans there root for Tech. There’s probably just as many out-of-state fans in Atlanta than there are Tech fans.

Add to all of that the fact that UGA has the potential to play 3 games in Atlanta every single year without Tech on the schedule (CFA Kick-Off, SECCG, Peach Bowl), that extra game at Tech every other year is virtually meaningless for their connection to Atlanta.

To answer your question, their target demographic is everyone residing in the state of Georgia. Yes, that includes Atlanta. Sanford Stadium can hold 73% of the total Athens population. Bobby Dodd can hold 11% of the city of Atlanta’s population, and less than 1% of the entire metro area’s population. Guess which one of those stadiums sells out consistently.

I don’t want to stop playing Georgia. I hate Georgia, and hope Tech beats them every chance they get. But, Tech needs the UGA rivalry waayyyyy more than UGA does. If COFH was permanently cancelled, Georgia Tech football would be about as relevant as Mercer football in the state of Georgia under the current circumstances. If Tech does start competing for ACC championships and NY6 games, that may change, but right now Tech can’t afford not to play Georgia, unless they can replace them with Alabama, Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, LSU, Oklahoma, Texas, Michigan, etc. But even those games won’t matter if Tech can’t beat them every once in a while, which is why COFH has lost much of its meaning. 4-16 since the turn of the century does no favors for drawing attention.

The most basic way to prove you wrong: If what you’re saying was true, uga would have ended this series a long time ago.

 

[JacketOff]

The most basic way to prove you wrong: If what you’re saying was true, uga would have ended this series a long time ago.

Can you tell me what I said that was false? Was it that Tech sells 70% fewer tickets per city capita? Was it that Tech doesn’t sell out one of the smallest major college football stadiums in the southeast (19th smallest out of 65 P5 members + 2 independents in Notre Dame and BYU) , located in the most populous metro area in the southeast, and the 9th most populous in the entire country? Was it that UGA can very easily play 3 games in Atlanta per year without ever playing Tech? Was it that UGA already has more fans in Atlanta than Tech does? UGA already has a very well established recruiting pipeline to metro ATL, they wouldn’t lose any of that pull by not playing Tech.

As far as why has UGA not already cancelled the series, well.... they voted against adding a +1 game to the SEC schedule in order to avoid the Tech game. USCe was the only SEC school to vote yes, why? Because their series is as lopsided as COFH is. They need to play Clemson way more than Clemson needs them. UGA has never had a reason to cancel the COFH hate game. Through the 90s the series was still competitive, and even though they were building a lead, Tech was still winning 3-4 games per decade. Now it’s basically a “buy game” for them that they get for free, and it looks better on a playoff resume to beat a P5 team than it does another Sun Belt team. UGA has won 9 COFH games by 20+ points since the last time Tech won by 20, and Tech has only won 8 games all-time by 20 or more. The last 20 point Tech win came in 1974. UGA literally plays Tech to try and embarrass us. They have nothing else to gain from it in the modern era. Was there a time when they needed the game just as much, if not more, than Tech did? Yes. But that time was 60+ years ago. Times have changed, and UGA has “outgrown” the need to play Tech. The rivalry exists now mainly for historical and sentimental purposes, while they get the added benefit of embarrassing one of their rivals on a pretty much annual basis.

 

[gtrower]

Neat. Let’s see next year if uga has “outgrown the series.” Or if they come to Atlanta to play despite missing a home game.

 

[Milwaukee]

Can you tell me what I said that was false? Was it that Tech sells 70% fewer tickets per city capita? Was it that Tech doesn’t sell out one of the smallest major college football stadiums in the southeast (19th smallest out of 65 P5 members + 2 independents in Notre Dame and BYU) , located in the most populous metro area in the southeast, and the 9th most populous in the entire country? Was it that UGA can very easily play 3 games in Atlanta per year without ever playing Tech? Was it that UGA already has more fans in Atlanta than Tech does? UGA already has a very well established recruiting pipeline to metro ATL, they wouldn’t lose any of that pull by not playing Tech.

As far as why has UGA not already cancelled the series, well.... they voted against adding a +1 game to the SEC schedule in order to avoid the Tech game. USCe was the only SEC school to vote yes, why? Because their series is as lopsided as COFH is. They need to play Clemson way more than Clemson needs them. UGA has never had a reason to cancel the COFH hate game. Through the 90s the series was still competitive, and even though they were building a lead, Tech was still winning 3-4 games per decade. Now it’s basically a “buy game” for them that they get for free, and it looks better on a playoff resume to beat a P5 team than it does another Sun Belt team. UGA has won 9 COFH games by 20+ points since the last time Tech won by 20, and Tech has only won 8 games all-time by 20 or more. The last 20 point Tech win came in 1974. UGA literally plays Tech to try and embarrass us. They have nothing else to gain from it in the modern era. Was there a time when they needed the game just as much, if not more, than Tech did? Yes. But that time was 60+ years ago. Times have changed, and UGA has “outgrown” the need to play Tech. The rivalry exists now mainly for historical and sentimental purposes, while they get the added benefit of embarrassing one of their rivals on a pretty much annual basis.

You didn’t say anything false. That doesn’t mean you’re not wrong. Tech would be fine without UGA on the schedule, but it’s a moot point because COFH isn’t going anywhere.

 

[Buzztheirazz]

Atlanta is a fair weather sports town. If Tech can win consistently the fans will come out of the woodwork. If we get and stay ranked the fans will be there. Tech fans are pretty good at showing up for big matchups as well. Example-miracle on techwood

It stinks we don’t get to see the turnout for Notre Dame at the Benz this year. I think it would surprise the “we are the worst team in ATL/can’t get no respect” folks.