New Nike Rollout

[Milwaukee]

If you have Nike GT gear please send me pics first before you throw it out, I may take it off your hands.

 

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

From a purely non-political lens: They are a business, and the bottom line is the bottom line. There will be outrage among the Fox News crowd (average viewer age is 65), but that's not who is paying $150 for shoes. Younger people generally support (or aren't bothered) NFL players exercising their First Amendment rights, and that's the audience that Nike (and most non-pharmaceutical companies) covet. If you think a company like Nike cares about Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh railing against them, think again.

Employees on a job (any job) don't have so-called First Amendment rights while on the job. The employer can set any rules he wants. What the employee says off the job is not the business of the employer, unless it affects the company (or whatever).

 

[LibertyTurns]

Some people will vote with their wallet which is the beauty of this country! They will buy Nike because they support Kap. Others will keep doing what they’ve been doing because this amounts to nothing. Some will take their money & go elsewhere. Freedom, folks!

I know it’s not a popular position with the socialists, but this was a very capitalist move. Somebody at Nike obviously calculated that they’d make more money with Kap representing them. That person will either prosper by virtue of being precient or will have committed career suicide by being wrong or it will be neither & they’ll live to fight another day. The joy of being where the buck stops!

 

[LibertyTurns]

Employees on a job (any job) don't have so-called First Amendment rights while on the job. The employer can set any rules he wants. What the employee says off the job is not the business of the employer, unless it affects the company (or whatever).

If the employer, ie the Team, gave a crap about the nonsense on the sidelines they’d do something about it. Or if the financial penalty was high enough, they might choose to act but it doesn’t look like that’s the case either. They either support what the players are doing or are indifferent. It’s their business. They can choose to make good or bad decisions because it’s their money.

The individual fans can choose to keep watching, watch less or stop watching. Nobody’s twisting anyone’s arm. It’s a free country after all. Government’s not ramming football down our throats like they are other things.

 

[GT_05]

If the employer, ie the Team, gave a crap about the nonsense on the sidelines they’d do something about it. Or if the financial penalty was high enough, they might choose to act but it doesn’t look like that’s the case either. They either support what the players are doing or are indifferent. It’s their business. They can choose to make good or bad decisions because it’s their money.

The individual fans can choose to keep watching, watch less or stop watching. Nobody’s twisting anyone’s arm. It’s a free country after all. Government’s not ramming football down our throats like they are other things.

Yes! There was a time many years ago when I watched every pro game possible. I became irritated with all of the showboating and ridiculous contracts so I turned them off and switched to college ball. Now, I average about two pro games per year instead of four games per week. I decided I didn’t want my time and dollars supporting that stuff and life has been better since.


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[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

Yes! There was a time many years ago when I watched every pro game possible. I became irritated with all of the showboating and ridiculous contracts so I turned them off and switched to college ball. Now, I average about two pro games per year instead of four games per week. I decided I didn’t want my time and dollars supporting that stuff and life has been better since.


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The only pro game I MIGHT watch is the Super Bowl.

 

[TechCubed]

In the grand scheme of things, the fact that grown men kneeling is offensive to other grown men shows where we are as a society in 2018. Politicians and pundits profit off the outrage. It's a free country, and as long as people aren't breaking the law, people can do as they please.

Anyone give a tangible example of how their life is impacted (hurt feelings don't count) whether everyone stands or kneels during the anthem, whether Nike signs or drops Kap? Pretty sure I have to go to work tomorrow and feed my family either way.

 

[MikeJackets1967]

The only pro game I MIGHT watch is the Super Bowl.

I'll keep up with scores and stats but i wont be watching

 

[MikeJackets1967]

If the employer, ie the Team, gave a crap about the nonsense on the sidelines they’d do something about it. Or if the financial penalty was high enough, they might choose to act but it doesn’t look like that’s the case either. They either support what the players are doing or are indifferent. It’s their business. They can choose to make good or bad decisions because it’s their money.

The individual fans can choose to keep watching, watch less or stop watching. Nobody’s twisting anyone’s arm. It’s a free country after all. Government’s not ramming football down our throats like they are other things.

What do you think the NFL would do if attendance dropped every game until the stadiums were only 1/4 full?

 

[YlJacket]

Just from a purely numbers perspective I am surprised Nike did this. There was obvious blow back for his action that you could see in ratings and other ways. Even if you wanted to minimize the blowback it was a significant percentage of the public. I have to guess they believe the segment that buys their expensive stuff is younger and more socially liberal (no commentary just trying to figure it out). The older folks must not buy enough Nike???

 

[GT_05]

It's a free country, and as long as people aren't breaking the law, people can do as they please.

Which includes changing the channel. But the NFL can manage it however they see fit. I gave up on them long before the Nike spokesman started kneeling.





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[Jophish17]

Just from a purely numbers perspective I am surprised Nike did this. There was obvious blow back for his action that you could see in ratings and other ways.

Yeah and this:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-selling-jersey-since-national-anthem-protest

Even if you wanted to minimize the blowback it was a significant percentage of the public. I have to guess they believe the segment that buys their expensive stuff is younger and more socially liberal

I think you're right.

 

[LibertyTurns]

Just from a purely numbers perspective I am surprised Nike did this. There was obvious blow back for his action that you could see in ratings and other ways. Even if you wanted to minimize the blowback it was a significant percentage of the public. I have to guess they believe the segment that buys their expensive stuff is younger and more socially liberal (no commentary just trying to figure it out). The older folks must not buy enough Nike???

It’s a ballsy move no doubt. I wouldn’t bet against them though. I’m not sure % of NFL fans = % of jersey buying people if that makes any sense. Time will tell.

 

[MikeJackets1967]

It’s a ballsy move no doubt. I wouldn’t bet against them though. I’m not sure % of NFL fans = % of jersey buying people if that makes any sense. Time will tell.

The people who run Nike are extremely leftist and that has a whole lot to do with it.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

It makes me physically ill and I just cannot stand grits. But that’s just me. I know a great many other people, especially in the south love grits. I’m not perfect, but I’ve asked others why they have an opposite opinion on grits, and I at least understand it even if I don’t agree with it. There is too much outrage about everything these days.

Nike has been eye deep in controversy for a long time. Their money has corrupted many sports like the USATF going way back. They’ve supported athletes under suspicion of PEDs and probably contributed to it. It’s in their lifeblood. It is what it is.

Let’s keep being kind to each other regardless of what else is going on around us and let’s keep engaging with each other... even if they like those nasty grits.

 

[Technut1990]

In the grand scheme of things, the fact that grown men kneeling is offensive to other grown men shows where we are as a society in 2018. Politicians and pundits profit off the outrage. It's a free country, and as long as people aren't breaking the law, people can do as they please.

Anyone give a tangible example of how their life is impacted (hurt feelings don't count) whether everyone stands or kneels during the anthem, whether Nike signs or drops Kap? Pretty sure I have to go to work tomorrow and feed my family either way.

From my perspective it totally goes against how I was raised. This country, Via the flag, represents the very right to protest. It’s like the perverbial dog biting the hand that feeds it. The country’s current direction is a result of the “how does it effect me” mentality.

Another facet that bothers me is that the players claim the rights are being violated by the no kneeling rules. They aren’t — well at least anymore than the rest of ours are. The courts long ago decided this issue, you have a right to protest but you don’t have a right to the job.

The privledged complaining about things that have been placed on others ( workplace rules ) as they themselves make millions from 100 other rules the job enforces is funny and is somewhat anythitical to the entire thing. Why don’t LBs simply ignore the no hitting the QB below the thigh rule, then protest when they are suspended ? Protest Union dues ! Demand they represent you free. I mean the list goes on and on. Their perspective on society and it’s ills Are simply their opinions and those opinions are not based in reality. as a matter of fact the way it’s presented is exactly the type of stereotyping they claim to be vcts of.

Imagine going to work and refusing to follow the rules because you think African Americans are to violent. It seems that group identification for demeaning beliefs is ok for some but not ok when applied by the same standards, to them.

 

[Oakland]

Cheesy move by Nike. Where was their support when all of this started? It's just a corporate gimmick and people will fall for it. They're in the business for making $$$. Wonder what their factory workers think about all of this.

 

[MikeJackets1967]

Cheesy move by Nike. Where was their support when all of this started? It's just a corporate gimmick and people will fall for it. They're in the business for making $$$. Wonder what their factory workers think about all of this.

Their workers in China will have no idea about this

 

[GT_05]

Cheesy move by Nike. Where was their support when all of this started? It's just a corporate gimmick and people will fall for it. They're in the business for making $$$. Wonder what their factory workers think about all of this.

Kaepitalism.


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[Jophish17]

Vice had a segment tonight that supports what some have said here.. Nike made a calculated move