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Golden Tornadoes

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I just don’t understand how this is going to end well. I don’t see his coaching style meshing well with 18-22 year old kids but hey, maybe I’m completely wrong.
 

Papa Foxtrot

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I see Mullen as more of a Southern guy, but UNLV probably made one of the best hires so far:


I don't get these guys. Plenty of money(UF paid him $12M not to coach) and a cushy broadcasting job. Not a care in the world and you want to go back to coaching CFB? Not CFB, but I would have been happy with Jon Gruden's Corona gig....
 

g0lftime

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Why Does this make remind me of the Tyson fight? Next season will be interesting.
I can't imagine he will be too excited to travel the recruiting trail and fly all over to smooze with 17 year olds and deal with helicopter parents and their agents. A 5 year deal puts him at 77 years old. The NFL is much easier to deal with than college at this point. A draft system, contracts, less restricted amounts of practice, no worries about academic progress, longevity of key players, no university system to deal with, etc.
It will be interesting to watch this play out. The first year team will probably be a boat load of incoming transfers.
 

Papa Foxtrot

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I can't imagine he will be too excited to travel the recruiting trail and fly all over to smooze with 17 year olds and deal with helicopter parents and their agents.
He might not be that involved in recruiting - maybe fly in to seal the deal for a high value prospect. He(more likely his assistants) is likely going to work the portal heavily, since that will feel more familiar to him.
 

g0lftime

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He might not be that involved in recruiting - maybe fly in to seal the deal for a high value prospect. He(more likely his assistants) is likely going to work the portal heavily, since that will feel more familiar to him.
Have to establish relationships with high school coaches as well. Not sure what kind of personality he has, but did Tom Brady even like him. College kids need a father figure (mentor) not a dictator like he came across at New England. His record without Brady was basically a little over .500. There's a reason no other NFL team wanted him.
 

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I can't imagine he will be too excited to travel the recruiting trail and fly all over to smooze with 17 year olds and deal with helicopter parents and their agents. A 5 year deal puts him at 77 years old. The NFL is much easier to deal with than college at this point. A draft system, contracts, less restricted amounts of practice, no worries about academic progress, longevity of key players, no university system to deal with, etc.
It will be interesting to watch this play out. The first year team will probably be a boat load of incoming transfers.
He'll hire a team to handle all that. He'll be the big guy they walk into the room with on the visit wearing his SB rings.
 

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I just don’t understand how this is going to end well. I don’t see his coaching style meshing well with 18-22 year old kids but hey, maybe I’m completely wrong.
It probably won’t. It’s a huge win for ESPN and has already been described as walking along and find a suitcase full of money on the sidewalk.

GT should benefit if the ACC media deal gets renegotiated. I wouldn’t doubt that this dampens Clemson’s and FSU’s lawsuits either.
 

yoshiki2

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It probably won’t. It’s a huge win for ESPN and has already been described as walking along and find a suitcase full of money on the sidewalk.

GT should benefit if the ACC media deal gets renegotiated. I wouldn’t doubt that this dampens Clemson’s and FSU’s lawsuits either.
I believe that ESPN needs to sign/renew the deal by February, we'll see what happens
 

Randy Carson

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Random Questions as I try to make sense of this.

If all it takes to be successful as a college coach is a super bowl ring or two, why aren't more colleges hiring former NFL head coaches?

Is it easier for a coach like Brent Key to add Belichick's discipline and systematic approach to the program? Or for Belichick to add Key's passion and genuineness?

If you were 18, would you rather play for Key or Belichick?

And in terms of assistant coaches, would you rather coach under Key or Belichick?
 

Root4GT

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Random Questions as I try to make sense of this.

If all it takes to be successful as a college coach is a super bowl ring or two, why aren't more colleges hiring former NFL head coaches?

Is it easier for a coach like Brent Key to add Belichick's discipline and systematic approach to the program? Or for Belichick to add Key's passion and genuineness?

If you were 18, would you rather play for Key or Belichick?

And in terms of assistant coaches, would you rather coach under Key or Belichick?
Fair question and the likely answer is "It Depends." Individual players and coaches all have their own reasons for playing for a team coached by Coach "X" or Coach "Y". There is no one size fits all.

For a lot of coaches, coaching in the NFL is the ultimate goal as you have the best players in the world who are grown men and playing football is their fulltime job. Also recruiting is not something a lot of coaches either enjoy or are good at.
 

swampsting

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I'll take on the last two of these.
If I'm a recruit with NFL aspirations (and don't they all or most of them), I'm going to play for Belichick because no one knows the NFL like he does.
If I'm an assistant, I'd rather coach under Belichick and soak up the knowledge - and Belichick is wont to dispense his vast knowledge of situational football to his assistants. You have coaching under Belichick on your resume', and that says something. True most of his assistants have face planted. But they got the shot to start with. And right now, one of Key's few shortcomings is clock and game management. Belichick is the master of them.

I'll take on the first question here. Remember when Dallas hired Jimmy Johnson? He said that was the last booster butt he had to placate (or WTTE) and he was never going back. In the NFL, it is all football all the time. You're not nursemaiding 105 teenagers. You're not having assistants stay late to make sure they are in study hall. If they're late in the NFL, you lock the doors and tell em TS. Now, you do some recruiting, especially when it comes to free agents. But the days of having to go to this function or that function to make some booster feel happy or that he's in on the program ain't hapnin in the NFL. There are more assistants working their bolt to get to the NFL from colleges than the other way around. Gotta figure the head coaches see it that way too. They only have to answer to a GM and an owner in the pros.
Random Questions as I try to make sense of this.

If all it takes to be successful as a college coach is a super bowl ring or two, why aren't more colleges hiring former NFL head coaches?

Is it easier for a coach like Brent Key to add Belichick's discipline and systematic approach to the program? Or for Belichick to add Key's passion and genuineness?

If you were 18, would you rather play for Key or Belichick?

And in terms of assistant coaches, would you rather coach under Key or Belichick?
 

minorityoption

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I'll take on the last two of these.
If I'm a recruit with NFL aspirations (and don't they all or most of them), I'm going to play for Belichick because no one knows the NFL like he does.
If I'm an assistant, I'd rather coach under Belichick and soak up the knowledge - and Belichick is wont to dispense his vast knowledge of situational football to his assistants. You have coaching under Belichick on your resume', and that says something. True most of his assistants have face planted. But they got the shot to start with. And right now, one of Key's few shortcomings is clock and game management. Belichick is the master of them.

I'll take on the first question here. Remember when Dallas hired Jimmy Johnson? He said that was the last booster butt he had to placate (or WTTE) and he was never going back. In the NFL, it is all football all the time. You're not nursemaiding 105 teenagers. You're not having assistants stay late to make sure they are in study hall. If they're late in the NFL, you lock the doors and tell em TS. Now, you do some recruiting, especially when it comes to free agents. But the days of having to go to this function or that function to make some booster feel happy or that he's in on the program ain't hapnin in the NFL. There are more assistants working their bolt to get to the NFL from colleges than the other way around. Gotta figure the head coaches see it that way too. They only have to answer to a GM and an owner in the pros.
I’d be excited if I were a UNC fan.
 

minorityoption

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Yeah, I suspect everybody connected with UNC or potentially connected with UNC is pretty excited. We’ll see if the honeymoon lasts.
I am not saying it will be successful. It is a big swing that has the eyes and ears of those with likely deep pockets. He also has a network of coaches to work with and rings to flaunt.
 

Root4GT

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Yeah, I suspect everybody connected with UNC or potentially connected with UNC is pretty excited. We’ll see if the honeymoon lasts.
My best friend is a hard core UNC guy. Basketball is what matters to him. Football success is nice but not essential. He dislikes the Hire. It will be interesting to see how this hire changes the perception of UNC Football
 

WreckinGT

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Random Questions as I try to make sense of this.

If all it takes to be successful as a college coach is a super bowl ring or two, why aren't more colleges hiring former NFL head coaches?

Is it easier for a coach like Brent Key to add Belichick's discipline and systematic approach to the program? Or for Belichick to add Key's passion and genuineness?

If you were 18, would you rather play for Key or Belichick?

And in terms of assistant coaches, would you rather coach under Key or Belichick?
Hard to answer those questions but I do think 18 year olds will be interested in playing for arguably the greatest football coach of all time. Especially with the NIL boost thats coming along with him. It will be an interesting experiment.
 

okiemon

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GT should benefit if the ACC media deal gets renegotiated. I wouldn’t doubt that this dampens Clemson’s and FSU’s lawsuits either.
Great point about the lawsuit. And I wonder if, assuming Belichick gets his program going the way he wants, this makes UNC more or less attractive to the SEC and BIG? I can think of points in favor of both sides if that.
 
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