Name and Likeness Law Signed by Kemp

[GT_EE78]

haven't seen any state but Ga with redistribution option, not sure
States with laws in place
Alabama -- Passed: April 2021. Goes into effect: July 1, 2021.
Arizona -- Passed: March 2021. Goes into effect: July 23, 2021.
Arkansas - Passed: April 2021. Goes into effect: Jan. 1, 2022.
California -- Passed: September 2019. Goes into effect: Jan. 1, 2023.
Colorado -- Passed: March 2020. Goes into effect: Jan. 1, 2023.
Florida -- Passed: June 2020. Goes into effect: July 1, 2021.
Georgia -- Passed: May 2021. Goes into effect: July 1, 2021.
Michigan -- Passed: December 2020. Goes into effect: Dec. 31, 2022.
Mississippi -- Passed: April 2021. Goes into effect: July 1, 2021.
Nebraska -- Passed: July 2020. Goes into effect: No later than July 1, 2023 (schools can implement new policy at any time).
New Jersey -- Passed: September 2020. Goes into effect: September 2025.
New Mexico -- Passed: April 2021. Goes into effect: July 1, 2021.
South Carolina -- Passed: May 2021. Goes into effect: July 1, 2022.


States with bills in legislative process
There are 14 other states with bills actively moving through the legislative process: Iowa (2021), Kansas (2022), Maryland (2023), Massachusetts (2022), Montana (2023), Nevada (2022), New York (2021), North Carolina (2024), Oregon (2021), Pennsylvania (2021), Rhode Island (2022), Tennessee (2023), Texas (2023), West Virginia (2021).

 

[85Escape]

They don't need to "cough up a ton of money". A little bit of money can be a lot of money to a college kid.

That's true. Of course, the way big corporations work would require there to be > $250,000 of background work, meetings, marketing plans and other corporate bureaucracy to sign that $10,000 NIL contract.

I think we'll see way more NIL work done at the small business level than with big corps. We'll see I suppose. But every car dealership in town will find a way to get some puppies players on their billboards.

 

[Coloradojacket]

LOL...to bring you all back to reality about the school and team we love. We can talk about recruiting, the NFL and paying players....but in the end for us...34 majors and calculus. You actually have to be able to read and write to get into Tech as a football player...unlike...UGA, Bama, UNC etc. This will always be what keeps us back, that is unless you have a coach that can scheme around this....

 

[Root4GT]

Right. In a free market, that's how it works. However, in amateur athletics, that's not how it's supposed to work. If the players are going to get "paid" then he's a professional and not eligible to participate in amateur athletics. College athletes are supposed to be amateurs. They need to choose.

What makes you think college sports are amateur athletics? That ship sailed 30 years ago. The Olympics are no longer amateur competition. Anyone pretending college athletics are amateur events simply is living in either the past or a fantasy world. You may not like this which is fine, however, NIL is simply acknowledging reality.

 

[Lotta Booze]

That's true. Of course, the way big corporations work would require there to be > $250,000 of background work, meetings, marketing plans and other corporate bureaucracy to sign that $10,000 NIL contract.

I think we'll see way more NIL work done at the small business level than with big corps. We'll see I suppose. But every car dealership in town will find a way to get some puppies players on their billboards.

I don't know how it will all shake out but in my head at least it would probably go down more like influencer marketing where companies would pay for sponsored posts or simply receive free product and then post about. I could see that being more small business heavy but I've got to imagine larger corporations have departments ready for that.

 

[Southpawmac]

Generalizations generally don't work

At best we might say "That's not how all marketing and sales work."

I, for one, wanted a Braves jersey a couple of years ago. I didn't want a specific player jersey because I KNEW they'd likely be gone in three years or so. I looked through the jersey's and picked the one I thought had the best chance of not being irrelevant in two years. I have no desire to see my $75 be relinquished to the basement closet when the player sells out to the Mets.
With transfers in college now I think at least some people will still root for the team, and not get caught up in our society's current cult-of-personality/star-worship syndrome. I root for teams, not players...who I think are all pretty much mercenaries now.

But the player on the jersey was still a factor in your purchase. I think it’s pretty obvious I buy jerseys for my team not the player. Some people follow specific players but that isn’t the norm and again only supports the reason teams sell player specific jerseys instead of plain generic ones.

 

[lauraee]

That's a false-parallel. Perhaps you need to think more creatively.

You could just as easily say "Ah. At least someone understands that it takes a team to win. I'm glad the system allows for the option of someone sharing the wealth." I know if I was a QB with a big NIL opportunity that I'd say "Hey, come block for me and I'll cut you in on 25% of my NIL revenue." That's smart capitalism, not socialism.

Really? It's capitalism for schools to take 75% of an athlete's NIL? I thought capitalism is when PRIVATE individuals control the factors of production? So if it's ok for universities to take 75% of NIL, does a star SA get some of that huge revenue made by Bama etc. on TV deals, etc.?

 

[85Escape]

I don't know how it will all shake out but in my head at least it would probably go down more like influencer marketing where companies would pay for sponsored posts or simply receive free product and then post about. I could see that being more small business heavy but I've got to imagine larger corporations have departments ready for tha

Really? It's capitalism for schools to take 75% of an athlete's NIL? I thought capitalism is when PRIVATE individuals control the factors of production? So if it's ok for universities to take 75% of NIL, does a star SA get some of that huge revenue made by Bama etc. on TV deals, etc.?

Well, you are assuming that the schools will do it without the player's agreement. As far as I know, the school can do it on a player by player basis and it could be done at the request of the player. So, is it capitalism if a QB says to the school "Take my NIL and give 25% of it to the general pool. I want to get better recruits here to help me win."?

 

[Coloradojacket]

But the player on the jersey was still a factor in your purchase. I think it’s pretty obvious I buy jerseys for my team not the player. Some people follow specific players but that isn’t the norm and again only supports the reason teams sell player specific jerseys instead of plain generic ones.

I have several number 21 Jerseys. Why, because at the time to get the color I wanted it was either 21, 20 or 9. Who was 21?

 

[BurdellJacket]

Do you think this doesn't already happen?

Selah!

 

[Southpawmac]

I have several number 21 Jerseys. Why, because at the time to get the color I wanted it was either 21, 20 or 9. Who was 21?

Calvin or Dwyer. The style of the jersey would make it obvious which one is which. Se below the images of two #21 jerseys that obviously convey two different players. 20 was likely when Roddy was wearing it and 9 was Nesbit. Again the style of the jersey would clearly indicate the time period, which in turn would indicate the player. .

 

[ugacdawg]

That 75% seems legally questionable, but I would be surprised if any program enforced it anyways.

The state law says they could do it, but I think its up to the schools themselves. I know UGA has already stated they have zero intention of holding back any NIL monies in escrow or redistributing it. I assume Tech would do the same (as well as every other school everywhere).

 

[forensicbuzz]

That’s not how marketing and sales works. There is a reason jerseys were sold in the number of the most popular player before the NIL lawsuit and why NFL teams don’t sell generic #1 jerseys since “people will buy them anyways”. People buy things that have meaning to them. I for one bought a Calvin jersey and the only jersey I’ve bought since the change is a #8 Thomas replica. I love wearing jerseys to games. I’ve got six Falcons jerseys and I’ve got two hawks jerseys. All are specifically of players that enjoyed watching. I don’t just buy them and I sure as hell wouldn’t buy six Falcons jerseys that were all generic #1.

Thinking that Calvin didn’t put butts in the seats is incredibly foolish as well. No one is saying he was the sole reason for every single season ticket that was sold, but to believe that were weren’t people that decided to buy season tickets because of him is ridiculous. I guarantee he caused sidewalk fans to buy tickets as well. Watching Calvin in person was a marvel and people bought tickets to see him play.

I think you're overselling Calvin's effect while he was here (except maybe his JR year). He might have been what pushed someone over the edge to go, but no way did he attract many that weren't already interested in going to a game. I love Calvin and what he's done to give GT bragging rights, but few outside of GT or those that played GT knew who he was until his JR year. It's a little different now with social media, but Calvin had a much bigger influence after he left than when he was here. And I'll bet dollars to donuts that those buying CJ #21 jerseys were already Tech fans.

You making guarantees you can't support. I saw every home game he played and many away games, so I know how amazing he was.

 

[forensicbuzz]

They don't need to "cough up a ton of money". A little bit of money can be a lot of money to a college kid.

They don't get the $$$$ until after they graduate. It's held in escrow for them. At least that's what I saw someone else write. So, no money while they're an amateur, but once they graduate and start earning money, they get all they earned before and needed but couldn't spend. That makes sense.

 

[forensicbuzz]

What makes you think college sports are amateur athletics? That ship sailed 30 years ago. The Olympics are no longer amateur competition. Anyone pretending college athletics are amateur events simply is living in either the past or a fantasy world. You may not like this which is fine, however, NIL is simply acknowledging reality.

It is amateur athletics. Look at the mission statements. Just because people cheat the system doesn't mean it's not.

 

[forensicbuzz]

Calvin or Dwyer. The style of the jersey would make it obvious which one is which. Se below the images of two #21 jerseys that obviously convey two different players. 20 was likely when Roddy was wearing it and 9 was Nesbit. Again the style of the jersey would clearly indicate the time period, which in turn would indicate the player. .View attachment 10491View attachment 10492

As far as I'm concerned that's Freddie's number.

 

[augustabuzz]

I think you're overselling Calvin's effect while he was here (except maybe his JR year). He might have been what pushed someone over the edge to go, but no way did he attract many that weren't already interested in going to a game. I love Calvin and what he's done to give GT bragging rights, but few outside of GT or those that played GT knew who he was until his JR year. It's a little different now with social media, but Calvin had a much bigger influence after he left than when he was here. And I'll bet dollars to donuts that those buying CJ #21 jerseys were already Tech fans.

You making guarantees you can't support. I saw every home game he played and many away games, so I know how amazing he was.

Clemson knew who he was in September 2004. Calvin Johnson 1st road game

 

[augustabuzz]

Clemson knew who he was in September 2004. Calvin Johnson 1st road game

CJ

 

[Coloradojacket]

Calvin or Dwyer. The style of the jersey would make it obvious which one is which. Se below the images of two #21 jerseys that obviously convey two different players. 20 was likely when Roddy was wearing it and 9 was Nesbit. Again the style of the jersey would clearly indicate the time period, which in turn would indicate the player. .View attachment 10491View attachment 10492

I know that. But I am just saying that a players number does not represent the player, particularly from year to year.

 

[lauraee]

Well, you are assuming that the schools will do it without the player's agreement. As far as I know, the school can do it on a player by player basis and it could be done at the request of the player. So, is it capitalism if a QB says to the school "Take my NIL and give 25% of it to the general pool. I want to get better recruits here to help me win."?

If the SA wants to voluntarily give some or all of his NIL money away, then that's different. The bill Kemp signed had nothing to do with capitalism since it would have given the schools the right to take up to 75% of NIL money away from the SA. Tech & ugag have both said they won't be summarily taking any % of NIL money. Good for them.