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lv20gt said:
Look, we all love Jose but he isn't in the RotY running.

I believe it's basically a three man race between the following.

Evan Mobley averaging 15 and 8 with 2.5 assists and 1.7 blocks.
Scottie Barnes averaging 15, 7.5, and 3.4
Cade Cunningham averaging 17, 6, and 5.5
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Here’s one set of odds, and Jose isn’t even on the list: https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/rookie-of-the-year-odds

This time last year the collective wisdom was either
  • Jose and Moses might come back for one more year
  • Moses might get drafted in round 2 and Jose will be lucky to get an offer
  • Moses and Jose will be playing internationally
Jose has played himself into being a gamer for an NBA team. That’s amazing from where he was last year. He’s going to get the training and coaching support to stick in the NBA. He’s not in the ROTY conversation as of now, but if there were an award for exceeding expectations, he’d be far in the lead for that one.
 
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Jose is playing like a ROTY contender as of late, but he obviously got too late a start. He played very sparingly at first after his call up, but his minutes have increased steadily, as has the Pel's confidence in him.
 

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Through perseverance, Alvarado got his foot in the door. Once there, he established himself as an NBA player by doing the same things he did in college, by simply making things happen through force of competitive will. He just needed a chance to show that his attributes translated from the college to the pro game. I think he has successfully done that. Isn't clear that he brings marketable assets to an NBA team?

BTW, for those old enough to remember, there was considerable chatter that Mark Price was too small and too slow to play in the NBA prior to the draft. He was considered by most to be a fringe NBA prospect. But Price did get drafted at the top of the 2nd round. Same deal though, he got the chance and proved he could play.

But to the NBA teams' credit, they did give them a chance. Having doubts is not the same as not giving them a chance. The pelicans have gave Alvarado a chance and now Alvarado will likely have an NBA career as a consequence.
 
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You would think that at some point (before now) opposing players would start being aware of where he is on the court. I don't watch much NBA and part of the reason is that the players often seem too laid back. Sometimes, it is almost like they are asleep. Hustle seems reserved for monster dunks that make highlights.
 

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RonJohn said:
You would think that at some point (before now) opposing players would start being aware of where he is on the court. I don't watch much NBA and part of the reason is that the players often seem too laid back. Sometimes, it is almost like they are asleep. Hustle seems reserved for monster dunks that make highlights.
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That's what Jose takes advantage of.

NBA players have learned how to conserve energy. The play picks up in play off time and generally it's seen as not worth the effort to press because team's handle and pass the ball too well. So players aren't used to dealing with that type of thing. It's why it works.

Unfortunately for Jose, that type of play isn't likely to be too relevant come playoff time. It might steal them a bucket or two a game every so often during the regular season but it's unlikely to be as effective come play off time.

It still gives him a valuable role, especially on a fringe playoff team, and he's good enough otherwise for it to not be his only addition when on the court.
 
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