J Batt interviewing for USC(e) AD job

[TooTall]

Nothing needs to be done. Every kid out there that can make money is allowed to accept for atheletes. Why? What amazing thing are you giving them, that everyone else gets to make money off their talents except for people who do a certain type of job? They need to look out for themselves and just sad that it has taken this long to get here. If they would have done this properly to begin with, we wouldn't be in this state now. You reap what you sow.

Free education that can cost over $100,000 for 4 years at certain places. Free room and board and meal plan and academic help and travel all over the country and healthcare etc....Yeah I'm sure the student who has to work at a minimum wage job or two just to cover the education, room and board has it sooooooo much better. But it's a mute point now.

 

[cpf2001]

Plenty of students get scholarships + also salaries for work for the university or third parties while remaining students.

Tons of people are making lots off of college sports who aren’t playing the games. Unless admin salaries, coaching salaries, ticket prices, tv broadcast rights prices, etc are all capped than its silly to only restrict compensation for the players, without any sort of bargaining or contract. Hopefully we get that in the near future to make things less volatile.

 

[LongforDodd]

How’d you guess? Ha! Did they move registration to O’Keefe after I left? It was smaller than Heisman as I recall. Granted, that was over 40 years ago now!

All I remember is that cute little girl sitting on the bleachers. Our paths had crossed, in a way, a few years earlier. She being from Macon and me from just down the street. Another story for another time but it involves Vince Dooley.

 

[buzz_wiser©]

looks like a great hire for USCe...Stay Away from Batt man

 

[forensicbuzz]

Plenty of students get scholarships + also salaries for work for the university or third parties while remaining students.

Tons of people are making lots off of college sports who aren’t playing the games. Unless admin salaries, coaching salaries, ticket prices, tv broadcast rights prices, etc are all capped than its silly to only restrict compensation for the players, without any sort of bargaining or contract. Hopefully we get that in the near future to make things less volatile.

I cooped. The cost-of-living stipend is more than I made as a student. They were already getting paid on par or better than their fellow students. I'm not arguing against sharing the wealth, but don't ever compare the student athletes to the regular students in terms of compensation pre-nil. There's no comparison.

 

[cpf2001]

I cooped. The cost-of-living stipend is more than I made as a student. They were already getting paid on par or better than their fellow students. I'm not arguing against sharing the wealth, but don't ever compare the student athletes to the regular students in terms of compensation pre-nil. There's no comparison.

If I can’t do what they do who am I to complain about them getting a good share of the money I’m paying to watch? The comparison is simply “everyone should get what they can from the market for the work they do.”

I don’t like it when people complain folks in my business get paid too much either.

 

[forensicbuzz]

If I can’t do what they do who am I to complain about them getting a good share of the money I’m paying to watch? The comparison is simply “everyone should get what they can from the market for the work they do.”

I don’t like it when people complain folks in my business get paid too much either.

That wasn't my point. The reason athletes weren't "allowed" to get what the market would bear is because what you get is what we have now, which is a runaway train. This is the reason you willingly pay $400 for a 4-day pass to a music festival. I paid $28 to see the Rolling Stones at Tech and $31 for the first Lollapalooza. Everything is more expensive now because the "entertainers" want huge $$ and the owners and venue owners are just passing the cost along to the consumer.

 

[GaTech4ever]

If I can’t do what they do who am I to complain about them getting a good share of the money I’m paying to watch? The comparison is simply “everyone should get what they can from the market for the work they do.”

I don’t like it when people complain folks in my business get paid too much either.

Yeah, I think of it like this. I was a good student at Tech because I worked my tail off. Yet, the 6th string A-back contributed more to Georgia Tech than I ever did, and therefore deserves more from Georgia Tech than I do.

 

[forensicbuzz]

Yeah, I think of it like this. I was a good student at Tech because I worked my tail off. Yet, the 6th string A-back contributed more to Georgia Tech than I ever did, and therefore deserves more from Georgia Tech than I do.

If you really believe this, that's on you. My financial support and my professional reputation are constant contributions to Tech's bottom line.

 

[GaTech4ever]

If you really believe this, that's on you. My financial support and my professional reputation are constant contributions to Tech's bottom line.

I never put my body on the line and people never paid to see me perform. I’m very comfortable with my professional reputation and contributions as well. We just agree to disagree. I don’t disrespect your opinion at all but that’s just me.

 

[BleedGoldNWhite21]

That wasn't my point. The reason athletes weren't "allowed" to get what the market would bear is because what you get is what we have now, which is a runaway train. This is the reason you willingly pay $400 for a 4-day pass to a music festival. I paid $28 to see the Rolling Stones at Tech and $31 for the first Lollapalooza. Everything is more expensive now because the "entertainers" want huge $$ and the owners and venue owners are just passing the cost along to the consumer.

This isn’t accurate, regarding the music industry. Concert tickets have skyrocketed in the world of streaming because they make next to nothing on streaming platforms and no one buys albums anymore. Concerts are their only serious source of income. Streaming is Pandora’s box as it has given the consumers access to everything at the cost of everyone in the entertainment industry’s ability to make a living. Regardless of what side you are on the NIL debate, costs in the entertainment industry simply have no correlation.

 

[cpf2001]

This isn’t accurate, regarding the music industry. Concert tickets have skyrocketed in the world of streaming because they make next to nothing on streaming platforms and no one buys albums anymore. Concerts are their only serious source of income. Streaming is Pandora’s box as it has given the consumers access to everything at the cost of everyone in the entertainment industry’s ability to make a living. Regardless of what side you are on the NIL debate, costs in the entertainment industry simply have no correlation.

They’ve also skyrocketed because of double income / no kids types who keep going well into their 40s and have far more disposable income than teenagers. Otherwise those prices wouldn’t work for nearly as many artists.

That part is comparable IMO from a “lots of money sloshing around” perspective. Part of the insanity is that people with big money have attached their egos to the teams and have been ramping up an arms race. And the other part of the insanity is that advertisers are desperate for TV content where people won’t skip the ads and so are pumping more cash in themselves.

 

[orientalnc]

That wasn't my point. The reason athletes weren't "allowed" to get what the market would bear is because what you get is what we have now, which is a runaway train. This is the reason you willingly pay $400 for a 4-day pass to a music festival. I paid $28 to see the Rolling Stones at Tech and $31 for the first Lollapalooza. Everything is more expensive now because the "entertainers" want huge $$ and the owners and venue owners are just passing the cost along to the consumer.

I take a mild exception to this post. Music artists, except at the very top tier of the industry, are not making a killing on concert or festival tickets. People pay $400 for a festival pass because it's worth that to them. But, fewer people are paying those prices now than before the pandemic. Venues are struggling. Artists are working 2-3 parttime jobs to support their music career. Every top artist comes to Chicago, so you have lots of choices. Sports, is in fact, competing for those entertainment dollars and people like you can choose from a wide range of ways to spend their money.

 

[TampaBuzz]

That wasn't my point. The reason athletes weren't "allowed" to get what the market would bear is because what you get is what we have now, which is a runaway train. This is the reason you willingly pay $400 for a 4-day pass to a music festival. I paid $28 to see the Rolling Stones at Tech and $31 for the first Lollapalooza. Everything is more expensive now because the "entertainers" want huge $$ and the owners and venue owners are just passing the cost along to the consumer.

As long as the consumer is willing to pay the price, it will continue.

 

[AUFC]

As long as the consumer is willing to pay the price, it will continue.

I saw someone point out recently that one contributor to inflation is that it is now a God given right for young adults to see someone like Sabrina Carpenter in concert, whatever amount of money it takes. And if that means opening lines of credit or living paycheck-to-paycheck as a 24 year old making $150k, that's what it takes. It's part of the social media plague of society, because your life can't possibly be good or happy if you are missing out on experiences like these when you're seeing others broadcast them as you doomscroll on Instagram and TikTok 8 hours a day.

 

[stinger78]

I saw someone point out recently that one contributor to inflation is that it is now a God given right for young adults to see someone like Sabrina Carpenter in concert, whatever amount of money it takes. And if that means opening lines of credit or living paycheck-to-paycheck as a 24 year old making $150k, that's what it takes. It's part of the social media plague of society, because your life can't possibly be good or happy if you are missing out on experiences like these when you're seeing others broadcast them as you doomscroll on Instagram and TikTok 8 hours a day.

It’s their one of their few interactions with real humans and they will pay dearly for it.

 

[forensicbuzz]

This isn’t accurate, regarding the music industry. Concert tickets have skyrocketed in the world of streaming because they make next to nothing on streaming platforms and no one buys albums anymore. Concerts are their only serious source of income. Streaming is Pandora’s box as it has given the consumers access to everything at the cost of everyone in the entertainment industry’s ability to make a living. Regardless of what side you are on the NIL debate, costs in the entertainment industry simply have no correlation.

This started happening way before streaming services came about. There has been a huge increase in entertainment costs. If you don't think NIL and college football is about the entertainment industry, then we can't have an intelligent conversation about this. Athletes are no longer just athletes, they're entertainers.

Every time a song is played on the radio (streaming is just an extension of this), the artist gets a royalty. That, and concerts, has always been the main source of income for recording artists. That's the reason music-sharing sites, such as Napster, were shut down. They were bypassing the royalties earned by the artists.

 

[forensicbuzz]

I take a mild exception to this post. Music artists, except at the very top tier of the industry, are not making a killing on concert or festival tickets. People pay $400 for a festival pass because it's worth that to them. But, fewer people are paying those prices now than before the pandemic. Venues are struggling. Artists are working 2-3 parttime jobs to support their music career. Every top artist comes to Chicago, so you have lots of choices. Sports, is in fact, competing for those entertainment dollars and people like you can choose from a wide range of ways to spend their money.

My son and nephew are in the entertainment industry. I understand what you're saying. However, my point is not wrong. Why are professional athletes getting $20-$30MM/year contracts across multiple sports? Because they realized they were entertainers not just athletes. Owners just pass this cost along to the customer. Every year the norm is reestablished. People don't bat an eye at paying $500-$600 per ticket to go to some venue for some event (concert, game, etc.). The inflation of costs to the end user has skyrocketed over the past 30-35 years.

 

[stinger78]

Sports is entertainment. What’s the debate about? Even sEcSPN stands for entertainment and sports network.

 

[AUFC]

My son and nephew are in the entertainment industry. I understand what you're saying. However, my point is not wrong. Why are professional athletes getting $20-$30MM/year contracts across multiple sports? Because they realized they were entertainers not just athletes. Owners just pass this cost along to the customer. Every year the norm is reestablished. People don't bat an eye at paying $500-$600 per ticket to go to some venue for some event (concert, game, etc.). The inflation of costs to the end user has skyrocketed over the past 30-35 years.

One piece of this too is that supply of "attainable" seats for the average family has decreased while population has increased. Seats are being ripped out and replaced with luxury suites targeted towards corporate customers - one look at old college football or professional football stadiums versus something like SoFi Stadium tells the whole picture. We're all bidding against each other for less and less spots.