J Batt interviewing for USC(e) AD job

[57jacket]

Georgia Tech athletic director in line for contract extension, per ESPN report

Any extension or potential new contract for Batt must be approved by Tech's Athletic Association. The GTAA board of trustees has a meeting scheduled for 3 p.m. Friday.

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[AUFC]

SEC has viewed MBB as their next revenue sport to conquer. Thus heavy investment in coaching and players. Their success is not an accident. Couple that with some top-tier ACC coaches retiring and you get what you see now.

My question was a little rhetorical but this is basically it. Football money has flowed into basketball and now they are the premier basketball conference. The ACC is gasping for breath right now - the Big 12 is holding on for dear life as well and has carved out a nice niche as a basketball conference, but the MBB revenue will not allow them to keep up with the SEC football money, so they will gradually lose their positioning as time goes by. The Big East got a nice TV deal w/ Fox but will have a similar fate.

 

[stinger78]

SEC has viewed MBB as their next revenue sport to conquer. Thus heavy investment in coaching and players. Their success is not an accident. Couple that with some top-tier ACC coaches retiring and you get what you see now.

I agree here. There has been major turnover of ACC MBB HCs over the past 3 years. There have also been a handful of marginal to bad hires.

Still, let’s wait till the end of the season to judge. In spite of this, the ACC as a whole has done better than most all the rest most years in the NCAAT.

 

[takethepoints]

Still, let’s wait till the end of the season to judge. In spite of this, the ACC as a whole has done better than most all the rest most years in the NCAAT.

Yes and that kind of oil tanker can be pretty difficult to turn around. It can happen - shoot, it did with Tech football under TFG - still the odds are for the ACC to continue to be THE MBB conference. Of course, it would help if Tech stepped up, but that may take another year.

 

[Randy Carson]

SEC clinched the SEC/ACC men's basketball challenge this evening on Day 1 9-1. I know this is the football forum, but I don't think I've ever been more down about the state of our conference and Batt needs to get us out of this place ASAP. When I was growing up, people debated whether the ACC or Big East was the most elite basketball conference, and now the SEC is winning 90% of our matchups. How does that happen?

This is something that I considered more than a decade or two a go - pre-NIL. Here's how I viewed it then:

The best basketball coaches are expensive. So, if you want a top coach, you need a lot of money. The biggest college revenue sport is football. So, the schools with the most football revenue will have more money to hire the best basketball coaches. Schools that have 80-100,000 people attending home football games will have more money to spend than smaller schools like Tech, Wake and Duke. And so, the balance of basketball power will ultimately shift to the conference(s) whose members are also football powers.

Now that NIL is a thing, has my scenario been slowed or accelerated?

 

[buzzn3]

McCamish is way too big for volleyball right now. It's okay to do it once a year like we have been the last several... and we get close to 4000 attending, including many middle and high school girls with lots of hopes and dreams. We've definitely outgrown O'Keefe and they should be playing in a bigger arena but that's what I also love about O'Keefe. The place is very hostile to opposing teams and the bigger programs that show up (like Stanford) get their mojo thrown off. Has anyone wondered about long term hearing damage for the coaches and players? (serious question)

Not O'Keefe, but I heard someone from GT Marketing had to seriously ask if they'd potentially be causing hearing damage when they had the full marching band in McCamish for the volleyball game earlier this semester. It was apparently VERY, VERY loud (although not expected to be damaging, except to the opposing team's play)

 

[gtee91]

Not O'Keefe, but I heard someone from GT Marketing had to seriously ask if they'd potentially be causing hearing damage when they had the full marching band in McCamish for the volleyball game earlier this semester. It was apparently VERY, VERY loud (although not expected to be damaging, except to the opposing team's play)

Back in ancient times when I was there, OKeefe looked like it would have fallen down with that type of sonic pressure...guess they have done some good rework...

 

[stinger78]

Back in ancient times when I was there, OKeefe looked like it would have fallen down with that type of sonic pressure...guess they have done some good rework...

I don’t know what they did because the holes in it would have relieved the pressure when I was at Ma Tech. Must have been an amazing redo!

 

[LongforDodd]

I met my wife in okeefe. We were both transferring in that quarter and we were scheduling our classes.

 

[stinger78]

I met my wife in okeefe. We were both transferring in that quarter and we were scheduling our classes.

Must have been after the Heisman gym was demolished.

 

[g0lftime]

I met my wife in okeefe. We were both transferring in that quarter and we were scheduling our classes.

It was still operating as a high school when I started. Kids walked from Techwood projects past the dorms every day on their way to school. Occasionally got harassed by guys in the dorms.

 

[LongforDodd]

Must have been after the Heisman gym was demolished.

It was 1980. I should have been out of school already. 78 like you, I think. I had a very circuitous route thru college. GT was my fourth and final stop.

 

[stinger78]

It was 1980. I should have been out of school already. 78 like you, I think. I had a very circuitous route thru college. GT was my fourth and final stop.

How’d you guess? Ha! Did they move registration to O’Keefe after I left? It was smaller than Heisman as I recall. Granted, that was over 40 years ago now!

 

[33jacket]

An unproven freshman OL is slated to make what our AD does now.

This environment is sickening.

So. Two things gonna happen. Either NIL somehow gets roped in, limited or whatever

Or salarys for admins, assistants, etc about to explode. No unproven freshman should make more than ADs responsible for the total program of a school.

I get nfl players make more than gms and coaches. But they are proven or more proven commodities in a draft structure. This isn’t the nfl something has to be done.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

An unproven freshman OL is slated to make what our AD does now.

This environment is sickening.

So. Two things gonna happen. Either NIL somehow gets roped in, limited or whatever

Or salarys for admins, assistants, etc about to explode. No unproven freshman should make more than ADs responsible for the total program of a school.

I get nfl players make more than gms and coaches. But they are proven or more proven commodities in a draft structure. This isn’t the nfl something has to be done.

I’m so totally schizophrenic about this. I want Tech to compete with the big boys while simultaneously hating the new rules of the game.

 

[4shotB]

I’m so totally schizophrenic about this. I want Tech to compete with the big boys while simultaneously hating the new rules of the game.

I think Dabo and the Tigers are a perfect example of what happens when you play by a different set of rules than other teams. I saw them play SoCar last week and, while they are still better than "meh" at the moment, the trajectory of their program doesn't appear to be a positive one. It's evolution, you either adapt or perish. If I would have told you 5 - 10 years ago that we would have a better recruiting class than them, you would have questioned my sanity. (maybe their equivalent classes, I really don't know, but the point remains).

 

[LawTalkin Jacket]

An unproven freshman OL is slated to make what our AD does now.

This environment is sickening.

So. Two things gonna happen. Either NIL somehow gets roped in, limited or whatever

Or salarys for admins, assistants, etc about to explode. No unproven freshman should make more than ADs responsible for the total program of a school.

I get nfl players make more than gms and coaches. But they are proven or more proven commodities in a draft structure. This isn’t the nfl something has to be done.

If the athletes didn't generate sufficient revenue to justify their $nil, they wouldn't get it. market economy/capitalism no need to gripe about it. Josh Petty apparently has rare talent and will be paid accordingly. If not for the athletes, the coaches, ADs and admins wouldn't have jobs.

 

[gtee91]

How’d you guess? Ha! Did they move registration to O’Keefe after I left? It was smaller than Heisman as I recall. Granted, that was over 40 years ago now!

Yes, even though OSCAR registration came online in 1986ish, they found great joy in making old style card registration in okeefe as part of FASET for several years.
Because my brother was there, we pre schemed my cards. Good times.

 

[33jacket]

If the athletes didn't generate sufficient revenue to justify their $nil, they wouldn't get it. market economy/capitalism no need to gripe about it. Josh Petty apparently has rare talent and will be paid accordingly. If not for the athletes, the coaches, ADs and admins wouldn't have jobs.

Except these schools generate the revenue anyway. Its chicken and egg. Does the school launch the kid. Or the kid the school

Do u think all the heismans happen under saban at bama if each of those kids were at vandy. Tech. Nc state. Etc. nope

The school matters as much. Kids don’t make a school. Especially 3 year kids. The program makes the school. Makes the kids.

So I disagree. This isn’t nil going to a heisman winner. Its nil going to high school senior who could be a total bust.

The high schools senior has not done ish for tech

U want to pay a kid at tech who is awesome. Fine. Not close to what i am talking about.

Something needs to be done about nil for high school seniors and recruits. Has to be reigned in.

 

[Novajacket]

Nothing needs to be done. Every kid out there that can make money is allowed to accept for atheletes. Why? What amazing thing are you giving them, that everyone else gets to make money off their talents except for people who do a certain type of job? They need to look out for themselves and just sad that it has taken this long to get here. If they would have done this properly to begin with, we wouldn't be in this state now. You reap what you sow.