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CPJ brought stability to Tech when we needed it. Financial, staffing, and infrastructure issues werent helpful ... but he did well considering.
How Good Was Coach Johnson at Tech?
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Brent Venables. Too bad he coached for the other guy.
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My Bad... It was suppose to say (1990)... Actually in 1990 he had a 10 win Season... with the Bowl game win that season he was 11-0-1
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Will do a Poll.. That Could be a Great Discussion!!
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The hardest job in college football is to be the poor soul who follows a legend. Do you remember the guy who replaced Bear Bryant? Ray Perkins was a two time All SEC receiver and All American for the Bear. He had a stellar pro career. He even coached in the pro ranks with the New York Jets. Even with all that he was run out of town quicker than you can say Joe Namath. Similarly, the successors to legends as varied as Bo Schembelcher, Woody Hayes, Joe Paterno, Lou Holtz, Robert Neyland, Charlie McClendon and others came to grief in one way or another in spite of the best intentions and sterling resumes. Poor old Bud Carson had the unenviable task of replacing Coach Dodd. You see his wins and percentage at the bottom. Curry, Carson, Ross and Rogers were hamstrung by poor facilities, an apathetic fan base, and ridiculous academic restrictions.
From Heisman through Dodd was a span of time covering two world wars, the Great Depression, the Civil Rights Movement, the Roaring Twenties a span covering more than 60 years. During all that time and tumult, we only had three coaches: Heisman, Alexander and Dodd. All three won national championships and all of them are in the Hall of Fame. Remarkable.
Today, we are experiencing a new transition. We are, for better or worse, on the cusp of a new era. Coach Collins has yet to conduct a practice, coach a game, or visit the Varsity but he has already signaled his intention to completely shake up the image of Georgia Tech as a recruiting backwater by brazenly attempting to poach a player from Grayson (whose name escapes me) that is verbally committed to Texas. Imagine the temerity of a Tech coach attempting to steal a four star committed to a factory. Sakes Alive! Doesn't the man realize that sort of thing is not permitted by the ACC or The Hill? As to Coach Johnson, he did the best he could with the hand he was dealt. A future Hall of Fame coach but an even better person. "Well done, thy good and faithful servant".
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These comparisons of who was better by, win percentage, average wins per season, etc. don't come close to telling the story.
No one has mentioned, O'Leary was only good when Ralph was his OC. By any measure. That very well may be true for Ross also, we can't know.
After Curry, Tech employed offensive genius on the sidelines 3 times, Friedgen twice and Johnson. Some heads will explode over the term genius, but watching Tech on offense with those 2, you knew they were a step ahead of the defense. Chess versus checkers.
The further down the road we go, the more Johnson will be appreciated.
Johnson was a superior in game coach, we may not see the like again.
No one has mentioned, O'Leary was only good when Ralph was his OC. By any measure. That very well may be true for Ross also, we can't know.
After Curry, Tech employed offensive genius on the sidelines 3 times, Friedgen twice and Johnson. Some heads will explode over the term genius, but watching Tech on offense with those 2, you knew they were a step ahead of the defense. Chess versus checkers.
The further down the road we go, the more Johnson will be appreciated.
Johnson was a superior in game coach, we may not see the like again.
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Or we just might, some where else.....I don't think he is done. I wish Tech was his last stop but I am not so sure.
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O'Leary years were definitely the most consistent in terms of success. He also left the program much better than he inherited it. Gailey and CPJ left the program in roughly the same shape as what they walked into.
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Not a great trend.
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PJ was a good coach but he was moving against the current with his Offense and it might have been getting worse..It was hard to stop but also hard to perfect and hard to recruit into these days as fewer guys want or couldn't play in it.Also his DEF suffered to SOME degree by practicing vs his Offense.(just by looking at results over time) BUT-also-PJ got some fine academic results.
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Another example of how blanket statistics do not tell the whole story:
Geoff Collins record as a head coach against teams with winning records: 4-7 . Geoff Collins record against FCS teams as a head coach: 1-1.
Hope these numbers get better next year as 5 of 7 teams in the Coastal finished with winning records, and we play an FCS team.
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The blocking rules changes didn’t help any either
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Best offensive mind to ever grace our sidelines. We were lucky to have him.
It was time for a change, as @Jerry the Jacket said it best.
It was time for a change, as @Jerry the Jacket said it best.
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Actually Kevin Steele ((Clemson DC) was the best. Dabo canned him after West Virginia hung 70 on them in the same year we kicked them b as dly.
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Success moving forward, in my eyes, is consistent 8 win seasons.
That would mean winning Tobacco Rd games (UNC, Duke),
3 of 4 from the rest of the Coastal (Miami, VPI, UVa, Pitt),
All your Non Conference games (minus UGA)
And then splitting Clemson & UGA (2 Current Top 5 programs).
Can it be done consistently in the modern era, given Tech' s limited academic offerings and fan support? As CPJ said, Time will tell....
Hope everyone who didn't like CPJ and the Option are lining up new season tix purchases and A-T Fund donations for 2019.... Coach Collins is going to need it!
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That would mean winning Tobacco Rd games (UNC, Duke),
3 of 4 from the rest of the Coastal (Miami, VPI, UVa, Pitt),
All your Non Conference games (minus UGA)
And then splitting Clemson & UGA (2 Current Top 5 programs).
Can it be done consistently in the modern era, given Tech' s limited academic offerings and fan support? As CPJ said, Time will tell....
Hope everyone who didn't like CPJ and the Option are lining up new season tix purchases and A-T Fund donations for 2019.... Coach Collins is going to need it!
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Coach Bear Byant wasnt a big stat guy. He complimented Auburn coac Shug Jordan by saying He could take his-in and beat your-in AND he could take your- in and beat his-in.
I wish we had givin him a top 25 recruiting call 3 years running.
I wish we had givin him a top 25 recruiting call 3 years running.
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Great point. Another factor along with all the others during his tenure. I seem to recall that early in, we did a lot of double team blocking....that became futile due to the chop block rule. The they tacked on the cut block rule.
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