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Moderator? Wow. Again...His stats don't equal reality. No one (outside of this board) believes that we played 4 top 20 defenses, even fewer believe that CPJ's offense is in the same league as Chad Morris/Gus Malzahn. Spinning with stats to support CPJ is an old trick that lost its credibility several years ago. I bet he could even find a stat that says that CPJ is over .500 vs FBS opponents over the last 4 years. Is that true as well? Now...let's move on.
The guys at footballoutsiders are not members of this forum, as far as I know. Their rankings say we played 4 of the top 20 Ds last year. ESPN and SBN have begun to use their stats. They are not a fringe organization.
Please explain how stats have been spun, in your opinion.
To help, I'll give you an example of what I consider spinning stats. Using yards/game as a measure of best defense without then defending the implication that Bowling Green and Florida Atlantic were better Ds than Clemson. That suggests that you don't actually believe the stat measures best D, but you were using it only to fit your preconceived point. That's spinning. Or, using yards per game and record to argue for best offense and best team without then defending the implication that Northern Illinois was a better offense and team than Clemson. That suggests @ATL1 doesn't actually believe the logic of his post but was using the stat to support a preconceived opinion. That's spinning.
In a more subtle way @cyptomcat has given another way of spinning. His post reflects that he knows that comparing total points between an offense that seeks to maximize possessions and one that often minimizes them is meaningless at best and misleading at worst. Yet he posts it any way, apparently happy to mislead with the stat any who, like him, won't go to the trouble of looking up the number of possessions. That's also a form of spinning imo.
So explain how you think I was guilty of that.