GT at uGA Post Game

[AUFC]

Did anyone watching that game not know where that play was going? Needed to have some trickery for once. Pyron can pass, can't he?

He can but I don’t think we’ve thrown the ball once out of that package. If you wanted to leave the possibility of a pass for Georgia to guard, you could have just left HK in. Buster gets really cute with the playcalling sometimes, almost always to our detriment. I’m reminded of when we finally moved the ball on Miami last season and he ran some trick play with Pyron on 1st and goal from the 5 that lost like 5 or 10 yards. I think we settled for a FG on that drive because of that play.

 

[stinger78]

I've seen some crazy, highly suspicious officiating in my day. I remember a GT-Duke basketball game where Jarret Jack was called for a penalty when he wasn't within three feet of touching the player that he was called for fouling.

I am totally receptive to the idea of officiating bias.

I just didn't see it in this game. I think it was a beautifully played game, and officiated evenly.

It was, until UGAg got close enough to win, then the bias stepped in.

Nobody such influencer wants to blow his cover. That’s why non-calls are preferable to calls. It’s a no footprint bias.

 

[MtnWasp]

It was, until UGAg got close enough to win, then the bias stepped in.

Nobody such influencer wants to blow his cover. That’s why non-calls are preferable to calls. It’s a no footprint bias.

How do you explain the PI call on UGA in the 7th overtime?

 

[stinger78]

How do you explain the PI call on UGA in the 7th overtime?

Again, that’s a flag, not a non-call. But to answer, some things are unavoidable and have to be called. That was pretty obvious. Plus, certain calls are made by certain officials and not others. Maybe not all were biased, or paid.

 

[WreckinGT]

The fact there are penalties that turn out to be pivotal in retrospect is not an indication of officiating bias.

If you want to claim bias, you have to show officiating inconsistency, where on similar plays they throw the flags on one team and not the other. I saw Efford go helmet to helmet with a UGA guy and that was not called either.

I'm sorry, GT fans are working themselves up into a lather by cherry picking the data.

I don't know if I've ever seen a football game where the officiating is literally irrelevant. And that is not the promise of fairness. There are multiple questionable calls in every single football game that a fan watches. Sometimes those calls occur on pivotal plays. But that is not evidence of corruption.

A game with 8 total flags with the key last flag going against UGA to give GT a second opportunity to literally walk off the field with the win certainly makes any accusation of corruption or bias look irrational.

In 2OT we got away with a pretty obvious pass interference as well when they were going for the win. All in all I think they had more questionable calls go their way but it wasn't completely one sided.

 

[stinger78]

In 2OT we got away with a pretty obvious pass interference as well when they were going for the win. All in all I think they had more questionable calls go their way but it wasn't completely one sided.

I agree with this. One especially. Again, the bigger issues are the non-calls, the non-reviews, etc.

 

[apatriot1776]

Buster gets really cute with the playcalling sometimes, almost always to our detriment.

100% agree with this. Faulkner is at his best when we are running a basic mesh or RPO or play-action, garnished with a ton of eye candy to get the defenders out of position. Faulkner is at his worst when we start running a complex play out of a complex formation with complex motion.

 

[4shotB]

Again, that’s a flag, not a non-call. But to answer, some things are unavoidable and have to be called. That was pretty obvious. Plus, certain calls are made by certain officials and not others. Maybe not all were biased, or paid.

When I saw the PI on fourth down against us in the end zone I thought it was a non-call event. Uga took the second chance and scored. Likewise the PI against them I thought was lame. But consistent with the earlier call. Given a second chance( from the 1.5 yard) we failed to convert. That would have been a walk off play. As has been said, the refs don’t give the opportunity to us had they wanted to determine the winner.

I am left to how much bandwidth we would have spent on this topic if we had converted that gifted chance ?

 

[stinger78]

When I saw the PI on fourth down against us in the end zone I thought it was a non-call event. Uga took the second chance and scored. Likewise the PI against them I thought was lame. But consistent with the earlier call. Given a second chance( from the 1.5 yard) we failed to convert. That would have been a walk off play. As has been said, the refs don’t give the opportunity to us had they wanted to determine the winner.

I am left to how much bandwidth we would have spent on this topic if we had converted that gifted chance ?

The 4th down PI call wasn’t the issue, that was borderline. The issue there was the non-call… the lack of review of the tip which CBK was vocally calling for. That is the referee’s call to make. The PI on UGA was similar, but with no potential tip needing review.

 

[apatriot1776]

When I saw the PI on fourth down against us in the end zone I thought it was a non-call event. Uga took the second chance and scored. Likewise the PI against them I thought was lame. But consistent with the earlier call. Given a second chance( from the 1.5 yard) we failed to convert. That would have been a walk off play. As has been said, the refs don’t give the opportunity to us had they wanted to determine the winner.

I am left to how much bandwidth we would have spent on this topic if we had converted that gifted chance ?

I was very upset with the 4th down PI because they had not called it against Malaki Starks covering Eric Singleton in a very similar play on a third-down during the first drive of the second half. We had just held them three-and-out at that point and extending that drive was crucial. Instead they seized momentum back with a TD of their own. For two very crucial plays to both go against us, both ways, sucks.

I will acknowledge the PI in 8OT was weak.

 

[cpf2001]

going for 2 in the first ot sounds good on paper but we were, what, 1 for 7 on 2pt tries?

Maybe we just didn’t have much we liked vs what we were seeing out of their defense. I was surprised how much we threw forward on those vs going sideways or more of an option look - for whatever reason, it didn’t seem like we were super comfortable in that situation.

 

[stinger78]

going for 2 in the first ot sounds good on paper but we were, what, 1 for 7 on 2pt tries?

Maybe we just didn’t have much we liked vs what we were seeing out of their defense. I was surprised how much we threw forward on those vs going sideways or more of an option look - for whatever reason, it didn’t seem like we were super comfortable in that situation.

I believe in taking what you can control. We weren’t stopping UGAg at that point, and we had a chance to win with as “fresh” an offense as we were going to have. I would have gone for the win right there.

 

[Root4GT]

How do you explain the PI call on UGA in the 7th overtime?

Or the non PI call on GT in an earlier OT period that was clear and obvious.

 

[MtnWasp]

going for 2 in the first ot sounds good on paper but we were, what, 1 for 7 on 2pt tries?

Maybe getting better at the 2pt tries should be getting more ink. I thought our play calling on those plays was weak.

 

[4shotB]

I believe in taking what you can control. We weren’t stopping UGAg at that point, and we had a chance to win with as “fresh” an offense as we were going to have. I would have gone for the win right there.

I agree on this. There were 3 of us Tech fans watching in a crowd of Dawg fans. We all felt like rolling the dice on 2 there for the reasons you mentioned.

 

[Richland County]

Completely agree with you on this. If anything I think the recruits are even more excited after that game than before the game.

Note this does not mean they are more excited than if we had won. Please read what I said carefully, folks. I’m saying that even that loss and the way it happened can be a net positive to recruits.

A 4* flip today exhibit A. Fans are hurt a lot deeper than recruits. I'm going on record now Tech wins next year. Jan a line should be out I'm putting money down.

 

[stinger78]

I agree on this. There were 3 of us Tech fans watching in a crowd of Dawg fans. We all felt like rolling the dice on 2 there for the reasons you mentioned.

You win or lose right there, and it’s in your control. King was spent, and truth be told, perhaps concussed from that illegal hit. I run him one more play and let him live or die as a hero. Gutsiest performance I’ve witnessed in a GA Tech uniform.

 

[Root4GT]

Maybe getting better at the 2pt tries should be getting more ink. I thought our play calling on those plays was weak.

My thought on them was King still does not have what I would call his “fastball” when he throws. Most of our competitions were a fairly slow developing plays. They are much harder to execute in a compressed area.

I don’t recall many quick slants or quick outs during the game that King threw. My memory might be faulty.

 

[yeti92]

You win or lose right there, and it’s in your control. King was spent, and truth be told, perhaps concussed from that illegal hit. I run him one more play and let him live or die as a hero. Gutsiest performance I’ve witnessed in a GA Tech uniform.

He looked concussed on that hit, he was just sitting on the ground not moving while everyone was scrambling for the ball.

 

[yeti92]

Eight total flags in a game. I'd take that 24/7

A low number of flags thrown is in no way indicative of whether there was bias or not. If team A commits 10 penalties and is called for 2 while team B commits 20 penalties and is called for 3, team B has gotten a significant unfair advantage because of the officiating.