Geoff Collins worst GT coach of all time

[CrackerJacket]

TFG’s feckless, vacuuous stench has been exorcised.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

Why are we still talking about TFG, let it rest now. If some other school wants to make the same mistake as us, let them. He's gone and we are finally fighting the mess he left us with

Why should we let something rest that gives so much wicked pleasure?

“Hey, Quentin Tarantino, why did you make ‘Inglorious Bastards,’ can’t you give this Hitler stuff a rest!?”

 

[GT33]

Whoever was hired post CPJ had a major talent problem and roster rebuild that was going to take 4- 5 years. Probability of failure was high.

We just ran the exact offense last night that should have been run in 2019-2022. We'd have done that we'd still have that guy but we'd have won about 12-15 more games over that period and we wouldn't have sunk the program to depths not seen since '79-'81 nor smashed the record for HC futility with that putrid 10-28 record of elite achievement he made us all suffer through.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

We just ran the exact offense last night that should have been run in 2019-2022. We'd have done that we'd still have that guy but we'd have won about 12-15 more games over that period and we wouldn't have sunk the program to depths not seen since '79-'81 nor smashed the record for HC futility with that putrid 10-28 record of elite achievement he made us all suffer through.

Yeah, but all the people who wanted Collins said last night’s offense was boring.

 

[GoJacketsInRaleigh]

How long is Collins going to live rent free in your heads? JFC, move on.

 

[GT33]

Yeah, but all the people who wanted Collins said last night’s offense was boring.

Nobody sitting anywhere around me thought last night’s game was boring. We all had a blast after the first 13 mins.

Always very odd to me how people become fans of coaches and not GT. Some people will go to their grave trying to explain how everything wasn’t perfect for him and how he didn’t have a fair chance. Next guy up took the same roster and immediately started winning.

 

[leatherneckjacket]

I wish fonts would let this thread die and purge him from our consciousness. I do not think about B*** L**** and 1994 any more. Let's move on.

 

[57jacket]

KILL THIS THREAD!!!

 

[sgreer]

We just ran the exact offense last night that should have been run in 2019-2022. We'd have done that we'd still have that guy but we'd have won about 12-15 more games over that period and we wouldn't have sunk the program to depths not seen since '79-'81 nor smashed the record for HC futility with that putrid 10-28 record of elite achievement he made us all suffer through.

That and also game management and special teams. There is no excuse for poor special teams and Collin’s were the worst I have ever seen.

 

[GTRambler]

Dave Patenaude.

LOL

 

[MountainBuzzMan]

Whoever was hired post CPJ had a major talent problem and roster rebuild that was going to take 4- 5 years. Probability of failure was high.

4-5 years??? That's some serious crack smoking! There was talent to win 6-8 games his first year and build from there.

 

[YoungSting]

Sometimes a grudge is good for the soul. And the way TFG has talked about us since his departure, giving a few extra kicks in doesn’t seem like a such a bad thing to me.

 

[leatherneckjacket]

4-5 years??? That's some serious crack smoking! There was talent to win 6-8 games his first year and build from there.

There was talent to win 6-8 games only if CPJ was HC. We were not going to find a HOF coach to replace CPJ. Further, no one of any quality who could have made something out off the roster was willing to come for how much we paid. It was going to take time to transition away from CPJ's offense and elevate the talent and depth on the roster. Add in the unrealistic expectations of GT fans that we could win 6-8 right away (which is downright laughable and who exactly is the crack smoker) and no wonder we ended up with a fraud. Who else would touch us? This is why CGC was able to negotiate a seven year contract. Our pickings were slim.

I find this whole argument trite. It is possible that both CGC was a horrible head coach and that our roster was lacking talent to win immediately.

 

[Oldgoldandwhite]

Give CPJ the same talent and he’ll stand toe to toe with anybody out there. GT had a lot of talent when CPJ was hired and you could easily see it on the field. IMO when Giff Smith left for buffalo our defense really never recovered and that kept us from winning a few ACC championships. In today’s football it’s hard to recruit the top players running the triple option. CPJ record speaks for itself but like other great coaches the game changes and passes you by. Bear Bryant was one of the greatest coaches but imo he would struggle to win today the game is different. Not many coaches could’ve pulled off what CPJ did in today’s football. CPJ had a great career and he was a winner.

Bear Bryant wouldn’t struggle today because he could recruit.

GFC should have been the marketing director for Bud Lite. I would take Bill Lewis over him any day of the week.

 

[leatherneckjacket]

Bear Bryant wouldn’t struggle today because he could recruit.

GFC should have been the marketing director for Bud Lite. I would take Bill Lewis over him any day of the week.

Yeah splitting the team along racial lines where everyone on the team was fighting with their own teammates is much better culture than whatever CGC did. Good call.

Let me help here. CGC was a fraud and created a bad culture of focusing on meaningless things. B*** L**** built a toxic culture where everyone hated each other. You pick which is worse.

 

[cpf2001]

Talent was there in year one to win at least one of the lost games…

And then once Collins was fired, it took, what, 14 months for Key to take a 3 win program to 7 wins? Rebuilds don’t have to take 5 years.

 

[Oldgoldandwhite]

There was talent to win 6-8 games only if CPJ was HC. We were not going to find a HOF coach to replace CPJ. Further, no one of any quality who could have made something out off the roster was willing to come for how much we paid. It was going to take time to transition away from CPJ's offense and elevate the talent and depth on the roster. Add in the unrealistic expectations of GT fans that we could win 6-8 right away (which is downright laughable and who exactly is the crack smoker) and no wonder we ended up with a fraud. Who else would touch us? This is why CGC was able to negotiate a seven year contract. Our pickings were slim.

I find this whole argument trite. It is possible that both CGC was a horrible head coach and that our roster was lacking talent to win immediately.

Fritz or Monken would have been bowling.

 

[leatherneckjacket]

Talent was there in year one to win at least one of the lost games…

And then once Collins was fired, it took, what, 14 months for Key to take a 3 win program to 7 wins? Rebuilds don’t have to take 5 years.

The talent level was much better when CGC left than what he got here. It was also dumb of CGC to not incorporate any of the option offense since that is how the roster was constructed, how the players were previously coached, and what Coach Pat was probably best at running.

 

[leatherneckjacket]

Fritz or Monken would have been bowling.

I disagree, but whatever.

 

[Papa Foxtrot]

Is there not an option to ignore a thread? I'm tire of seeing this con-artist's name....